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Bry... these look great and the second set is even better than the first. Great use of lighting. I saw the Foo shot on SS Fun Pix.


Sep 03, 2008 at 08:58 PM
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these shots are awesome Bryan. I was on the opposite side of Michael shooting my 300mm. I was going to post some of my pics, but after seeing these..... I'm embarrassed.......

next time I see you guys out there, I'll probably be peeking over your shoulder.



Sep 04, 2008 at 05:30 PM
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Love the shots! as stated above, the lightning is exceptional! Nice to see something from back home while I'm off at college =]


Sep 04, 2008 at 06:26 PM
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bryan,

Are these editorial, for wire or online? Portfolio? Here are my assessments of each photo.

1-No go. It's okay stock, maybe for media guide, but I pass. Btw, and this applies to all photos, your copyright logo tends to draw unwanted attention.
2-No go. Good emotion, but this type of shot is dime a dozen. Boring, ball not frozen. There is no reference to the floor so I can't tell if this was a standing serve, jump serve or jump float. The tight cropping renders this as blah.
3-No go. Not sure what's happening here. Either 1) They're about to start a new game, or 2) team in the background won a point, team in foreground does the quick regroup huddle.
4-Interesting but average. The lack of an opponent in the frame detracts from the action. For later reference, no one knows who hit the ball, other than #23 made a solo block (although #19 gets a block assist). Ball not frozen, but for this type of net action, the defenders are in focus. Never let the attacker(s) be in focus from the back.
5-No go, nothing happening.
6-Ditto #3 except you reversed in-focus subjects.
7-Fun pic.
8-Action is good, but neither defender or attacker is in focus. The net and ball are in focus, which ruins the rule I say where from this perspective the person (defender or attacker) facing the net should be in focus.
9-No go. Just going for an unusual perspective, right?
10-No go. Dime a dozen. Stock or media guide at best.
11-Nice editorial shot. I like this one.
12-Set point? I would like to see full body shots on all subjects. A wider shot here would be better.
13-No go. Stock or media guide.
14-Nice shot, but ball not frozen. I like this because all the experts will argue whether this was a block or not.
15-Not bad. Good editorial shot.
16-Good shot. I like this. The middle, right side and setter and all focused on where they think the serve will go. Strong editorial shot.
17-Average. Outside is about to win a point on a kill attempt. A setter blocking an outside usually loses one-on-one.
18-Great shot! Why? All three blockers have their eyes open. You don't see that too often but Pepperdine always has great tall blockers. They're always one of the tallest D1 teams in the country. The ball not frozen can be forgiven on this one.
19-Standard serve receive, average at best though you get a few points for shooting through the net unobstructed. Ball not frozen.
20-Attacker tips over the block. How do you know? The ball is frozen. The ball would be blurred if it was struck at 40-55mph. I like this one.

Volleyball these days has become a game of specialties. Kids train to become setters, hitters, or defenders. The best action shots are those where the DS or libero are digging kill attempts. It takes knowledge of the game to know when to capture those types of shots. Jump serves are near the top, as are top notch outside/right sides and middles on the attack taken from upper level looking down at net position.

Otherwise, all other types of action shots are average at best. Volleyball does have its rules, like all other sports. The ball has to be frozen before a shot can be considered compelling. And based on how the game is played, the most difficult type of shot to obtain where you can get the subject and frozen ball in focus is that of a libero or DS getting her hands on a 55mph kill shot. If you have intimate knowledge of the game, you can set yourself up to capture a handful of these shots in a match, but there is considerable luck involved too.

Rather than expand in several other areas, I'll stop here.

Overall, you have a few keepers, bryan.

Indy



Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42 PM
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indyjones wrote:
bryan,

Are these editorial, for wire or online? Portfolio? Here are my assessments of each photo.

1-No go. It's okay stock, maybe for media guide, but I pass. Btw, and this applies to all photos, your copyright logo tends to draw unwanted attention.
2-No go. Good emotion, but this type of shot is dime a dozen. Boring, ball not frozen. There is no reference to the floor so I can't tell if this was a standing serve, jump serve or jump float. The tight cropping renders this as blah.
3-No go. Not sure what's happening here. Either 1) They're about to start a
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Indy,
First of all I want to thank you for taking the time to critique each individual image. I would like to see more of that here and should try to do it myself for others.

My goal is twofold, some editorial and some portfolio. What if anything can I do to improve ball freeze. The team shooter has 11K in strobes and his aren't freezing the ball consistently.

What is the DS and the libero ?

Thanks,

Bryan



Sep 05, 2008 at 01:01 AM
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Bryan-

Maybe I can help with the libero/DS (Defensive Specialist) reference.

The libero is a new position introduced within the last few years and you see it at some levels of play. The libero is allowed to sub in as a backrow player at almost any time during the game. The libero is a defensive specialist and depending on how strong they are may be given much (if not all ) of the back court to cover defensively. The libero is required to wear a jersey of a different color so it is easier for the ref to identify and enforce other libero specific rules.

I totally agree with Indy that digging hard driven balls is probably the fastest and most unpredictable part of the game and as such would be the toughest part to capture. But as you watch a team you may identify their go to players and be able to anticipate who will get the set, or you my notice a strong block setting up and possibly anticipate the setter going to a hitter away from the block.

Thanks again for sharing. To bad I have more to offer on the sport side than the photo side.

Cheers,

Nick



Sep 16, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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NickMatheson wrote:
Bryan-

Maybe I can help with the libero/DS (Defensive Specialist) reference.

The libero is a new position introduced within the last few years and you see it at some levels of play. The libero is allowed to sub in as a backrow player at almost any time during the game. The libero is a defensive specialist and depending on how strong they are may be given much (if not all ) of the back court to cover defensively. The libero is required to wear a jersey of a different color so it is easier for the ref to identify and enforce
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Nick,
I appreciate the info. I've been to a couple matches without the camera to try and get a better feel for the rhythm of the game.




Sep 16, 2008 at 10:36 PM
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I like these shots, in particular the way the lightfall off reduces the background .. the ambient was 1600, 2.8, and 1/250 - 320 .. what did you shoot the strobed shots at? I'm guessing 1/200 and ISO 400?


Sep 17, 2008 at 09:20 AM
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What is the DS and the libero ?

that is the team member who is in the off colored shirt. they come in and out w/o having to check in. DS=defensive specialist which is the libero. they play in the back row and are normally half the size of every other player out there too



Sep 17, 2008 at 01:34 PM
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Bryan, I have to pipe in here and say thanks for posting these.

1st, your logo, is no issue for online viewing IMO, its clean, looks professional, and does not bother your images at all. Just one persons opinion, I like it.

Regarding your fist set of images from above. I totally agree with the advice Russ gave you and I think that reworked B&W version of number 3 is killer. I also like that wide shot/look of number 5 (even though it not a in action shot) parents, schools, colleges, clubs, etc, want faces and this delivers with a great exposure as well. Also # 8, action, emotion, ball in play with decent focus, NICE!.

Overall, I prefer your second series of shots from the floor. Whoever you are shooting these for should dig these shots. Lots of great captures IMO. # 18 is by far, hands down the best image you have posted here and is everything I strive for. Intense action, great emotion, awesome exposure with ball in play and focused. Nice work to say the least.........



Sep 17, 2008 at 07:07 PM
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Great shots. I still prefer bounced light to get rid of the harsh shadows.


Sep 17, 2008 at 09:21 PM
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bonnerkopf wrote:
Great shots. I still prefer bounced light to get rid of the harsh shadows.



Thanks for the feedback.


I'm actually having a problem with two of the lights not hitting as hard as the others which adds to the shadows.

The gym ceiling is black so bouncing wasn't an option.



Sep 17, 2008 at 09:25 PM
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SWRToad wrote:
Bryan, I have to pipe in here and say thanks for posting these.

1st, your logo, is no issue for online viewing IMO, its clean, looks professional, and does not bother your images at all. Just one persons opinion, I like it.

Regarding your fist set of images from above. I totally agree with the advice Russ gave you and I think that reworked B&W version of number 3 is killer. I also like that wide shot/look of number 5 (even though it not a in action shot) parents, schools, colleges, clubs, etc, want faces and this delivers with a great exposure
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Yo Don,
Thanks for the detailed feedback, it's much appreciated. I checked out your site, I love the Off Road gallery and the Vball.

Bryan



Sep 17, 2008 at 09:32 PM
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Defensive Specialist/Libero.

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/governance/sports_and_rules_ctees/playing_rules/volleyball/libero_faq.html




Sep 17, 2008 at 09:41 PM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/bryanlc/vball08.jpg


Sep 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM
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Mike Mahoney wrote:
I like these shots, in particular the way the lightfall off reduces the background .. the ambient was 1600, 2.8, and 1/250 - 320 .. what did you shoot the strobed shots at? I'm guessing 1/200 and ISO 400?



Mike,
On the MK2 1/250th , F5, ISO 200

On the MK1 1/500th f4, ISO 320



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:04 AM
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Ah, I miss shooting volleyball.

Tips on getting dig shots:

set out to get some good shots of the DS getting a save--and instead of tracking the action track the DS. You know that she's going to put herself into position to dig up a good number of the attacks from the other side.

Keep your camera trained on the DS, and with your peripheral vision track the play. Time your shot to capture the DS as she would contact ball (If the ball is hit to her) a lot of times the ball will be hit to another player and you'll get a shot of the DS reacting to nothing.

This has at least been my most effective method of getting those libero dig shots! Good luck.



Sep 19, 2008 at 02:25 AM
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Will,
Thanks for the advice.... I will give it a try tomorrow.

Bryan



Sep 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM
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strobe look works really well
notffoten you ever see it



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