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I'm heavily invested in Canon (glass and time), so always happy when they release new stuff - though the 40D I bought less than a year ago has depreciated more than any Canon digital camera I've owned previously - over any length of time. Guess Nikon waking up is accelerating the development cycle (and depreciation) again?

I am disappointed in the two key missing features that the D300 has - weather sealing and top of the line AF. Other than those two critical features, they did all the little stuff. Not sure that it makes it worth ~$600 more than the 40D.

Hopefully the 5D2 will be more like the D700, instead of a year behind it...



Aug 26, 2008 at 06:10 AM
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http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos50d/html/sample1_e.html

download the above image and try to stretch it out 800% - i haven't seen anything like it before on 1.6 crop it also takes heavy PS beating just like 1ds2 file. It will kill most crop bodies.


Edited by mttran on Aug 25, 2008 at 10:42 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:12 AM
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StreetJester wrote:
No mention of weather sealed in spec info.


The Canon site states: Constructed around a stainless steel chassis reinforced by magnesium alloy, this heavy-duty performer is made to last. Canon has also fortified the seal around the battery and memory card compartments to increase resistance to dust and water

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:13 AM
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Russ Isabella wrote:
StreetJester wrote:
No mention of weather sealed in spec info.


The Canon site states: Constructed around a stainless steel chassis reinforced by magnesium alloy, this heavy-duty performer is made to last. Canon has also fortified the seal around the battery and memory card compartments to increase resistance to dust and water


That's the same as 40D, I believe...I don't think it's weatherproof

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:15 AM
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Well now I am going to
1. Eat a little crow since I was a nay sayer? Forget it, there are too many rumors, I had to take a stand

2. Reconsider whether I might actually buy a 50D in a few months. I just got a 1DMkII to complement my 40D. Should I sell one, or figure out a way to have all three

3. Admit I can be more of gear head than I previously admitted to.

4. Get a new computer with a large RAID array since my storage needs will have gone up dramatically & I need the horsepower to process said large images.

Dan

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:17 AM
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dswiger wrote:
Well now I am going to
1. Eat a little crow since I was a nay sayer? Forget it, there are too many rumors, I had to take a stand

2. Reconsider whether I might actually buy a 50D in a few months. I just got a 1DMkII to complement my 40D. Should I sell one, or figure out a way to have all three

3. Admit I can be more of gear head than I previously admitted to.

4. Get a new computer with a large RAID array since my storage needs will have gone up dramatically & I need the horsepower to process said large images.

Dan


Well not to be cute, but you asked for it...what you do it take more pics and forget about it...give the bank account a rest.

Get a RAID...and a new computer is fun.


Edited by MSC on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:23 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:22 AM
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dswiger wrote:
4. Get a new computer with a large RAID array since my storage needs will have gone up dramatically & I need the horsepower to process said large images.


I can highly recommend this:
http://www.enhance-tech.com/products/desktop/t8_ip.html



Aug 26, 2008 at 06:22 AM
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stanj wrote:
dswiger wrote:
4. Get a new computer with a large RAID array since my storage needs will have gone up dramatically & I need the horsepower to process said large images.


I can highly recommend this:
http://www.enhance-tech.com/products/desktop/t8_ip.html



Wow, what does that baby cost...they seem to left the price off that page...I know, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Edited by MSC on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:26 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:25 AM
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In case this hasn't been posted yet, it's a nice canon mini-site for the 50d.

50D site

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:26 AM
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I am glad I held off a 40D buy

To me, microadjustment and a higher rez LCD are worth it. I'll take the 15MP files, ISO 12800 and sRAW modes as a bonus


Aug 26, 2008 at 06:27 AM
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MSC wrote:
Wow, what does that baby cost...they seem to left the price off that page...I know, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.


Heh. You can get it for about $1700 now (without the redundant power supply). Then add a few drives - 8x1TB Seagate in my case, which at the time of purchase was the real whopper. In RAID-5 configuration, on my MacPro, I get about 90MB/s read and 75MB/s write, which for a RAID-5 unit is actually quite awesome. 250W power consumption (with dual power supply and all 8 drives running), and you better put it in your attic as boy that thing is loud. The single power supply version is said to be MUCH quieter (one big fan instead of four tiny ones).

Edited by stanj on Aug 25, 2008 at 10:30 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:29 AM
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stanj wrote:
AGeoJO wrote:
Yup, Canon finally started to think like Nikon does, the pro-sumer bodies are not that much different than the the pro bodies. I am convinced now that the 7D (to be announced at Photokina) will be competing directly with the 1Ds MkIII. Better sell the MkIII now before the announcement .


Not unless the 5D2 (or whatever) has the same AF as my 1Ds3. Maybe I am alone in that thinking, but we are getting cameras that can shoot in increasingly darker situations, without improving the AF to match it. When I strap a 1.2 or 1.4 lens on my 40D it doesn't focus nearly as well as my 1Ds3, and I doubt the 50D (and by extension 5D2) would be any better.


Exactly. Canon still jealously withhold pro AF and real weather sealing for the 1-series. Until that (particularly the AF) changes, the gap between Canon's prosumer and pro bodies will continue to be significant. The 50D in no way demonstrates that Canon "finally started to think like Nikon does", which is unfortunate but acceptable considering that the XXD cameras are cheaper than the Nikon D300.

If the 40D->50D upgrade is any indication, the 5D replacement, whatever it's called and whatever its specs, will not pose any kind of threat to the 1DsIII except for customers who only wanted the 1DsIII for the resolution and not the AF, build, customizability, etc.

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:30 AM
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digitalbug30d wrote:..wish they would improve AF

They did improve it. Now it is "all cross type". And there is micro-adjustment in the custom functions so you can tweak it for lenses.



Edited by Monito on Aug 25, 2008 at 11:37 PM GMT

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marcus riley wrote:
In case this hasn't been posted yet, it's a nice canon mini-site for the 50d.

50D site


That's a very good site that includes some sample images - thanks for the pointer.


Aug 26, 2008 at 06:36 AM
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Monito wrote:
digitalbug30d wrote:..wish they would improve AF

They did improve it. Now it is "all cross type". And there is micro-adjustment in the custom functions so you can tweak it for lenses.


Still not really comparable to the 1D3 series, I am quite confident to say. The "all new improved 40D" back at the time couldn't hold a candle to my 1Ds2 at the time, so I don't think this is any different.

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:45 AM
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stanj wrote:
Monito wrote:
digitalbug30d wrote:..wish they would improve AF

They did improve it. Now it is "all cross type". And there is micro-adjustment in the custom functions so you can tweak it for lenses.


Still not really comparable to the 1D3 series, I am quite confident to say. The "all new improved 40D" back at the time couldn't hold a candle to my 1Ds2 at the time, so I don't think this is any different.


Yeah, and guess what also isn't comparable to the 1D3 series? The price. You aren't going to get a 1D3 for $1300 ... and you aren't going to get a camera comparable to a 1D3 for $1300.

Edited by netminder0 on Aug 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:49 AM
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Monito wrote:
digitalbug30d wrote:..wish they would improve AF

They did improve it. Now it is "all cross type". And there is micro-adjustment in the custom functions so you can tweak it for lenses.



The 9pt cross type is the same as the 40D looking at the descriptions for both cameras.

Micro adjustment is nice tho'

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:49 AM
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Anyone already know the European price for the 50D? Canon Dutch site says it becomes available at 8 oct 2008

Edited by Daan B on Aug 26, 2008 at 06:54 AM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 06:52 AM
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netminder0 wrote:
stanj wrote:
Monito wrote:
digitalbug30d wrote:..wish they would improve AF

They did improve it. Now it is "all cross type". And there is micro-adjustment in the custom functions so you can tweak it for lenses.


Still not really comparable to the 1D3 series, I am quite confident to say. The "all new improved 40D" back at the time couldn't hold a candle to my 1Ds2 at the time, so I don't think this is any different.


Yeah, and guess what also isn't comparable to the 1D3 series? The price. You aren't going to get a 1D3 for $1300 ... and you aren't going to get a camera comparable to a 1D3 for $1300.


In contrast to many others, I never had any issue with that. I don't expect the 50D to be a serious threat to the 1D3, nor do I expect the 5D2 to be a threat to the 1Ds3, except to those who only count pixels (not to mention LCD pixels )

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:53 AM
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Hopefully the image quality will be good at ISO 1600. Fingers crossed they haven't simply chased megapixels over image quality. Should be interesting for some, but for most I can't see anything that's much better over the 40D.

In other words, without a better AF or better image quality, the 40D'ers probably won't upgrade (except those needing 15MP).

Time to pick up a bargain maybe.

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:54 AM
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netminder0 wrote:

Yeah, and guess what also isn't comparable to the 1D3 series? The price. You aren't going to get a 1D3 for $1300 ... and you aren't going to get a camera comparable to a 1D3 for $1300.



I think the point is that Nikon has pro AF in it's D300, which is ~$1600 at B&H now, while Canon cannot, or will not, trickle that down to it's consumer line as Nikon has.


Aug 26, 2008 at 06:56 AM
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stanj wrote: Still not really comparable to the 1D3 series, I am quite confident to say. The "all new improved 40D" back at the time couldn't hold a candle to my 1Ds2 at the time, so I don't think this is any different.

As usual, people want 1D and 1Ds series performance for 40D prices.


Aug 26, 2008 at 06:58 AM
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I won't be buying this POS.

Aug 26, 2008 at 07:00 AM
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Monito wrote:
stanj wrote: Still not really comparable to the 1D3 series, I am quite confident to say. The "all new improved 40D" back at the time couldn't hold a candle to my 1Ds2 at the time, so I don't think this is any different.

As usual, people want 1D and 1Ds series performance for 40D prices.


You should read my posts more carefully.

Aug 26, 2008 at 07:02 AM
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Dr. Ray wrote:
I won't be buying this POS.


POS= "Point of Sale"

Aug 26, 2008 at 07:02 AM




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