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I did a little experiment tonight. Had my 85 L on a tripod with spot metering at 200 ISO. I did my experiment a little differently though. I took a shot using AF (center focus point on the middle of the label) and then another shot using Live View and MF. One thing I found out is that in Live View, the exposure was much better. Look at the shuter speed!! What's up??

I shot 1.2, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0

In all series Shot A is with AF, Shot B is Live View with MF.

Edited by pawlowski6132 on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:37 PM GMT

Edited by pawlowski6132 on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:08 AM GMT

Edited on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:08 AM



Aug 25, 2008 at 09:24 PM
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p.2 #2 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


Nuttin' like ah clean stylus!


Aug 25, 2008 at 09:37 PM
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p.2 #3 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


Gochugogi wrote:
Nuttin' like ah clean stylus!



Oh man, you got that right!!



Aug 25, 2008 at 09:39 PM
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p.2 #4 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


PLEASE, my lens is SHARP!!! I have it all together now and my lens is sharp as a tack at 1.2. Time for lthis post to ens




PLEASE I am now getting sharp results with my lens at 1.2. Thank you for your replies.


















Aug 25, 2008 at 09:49 PM
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mordicai wrote:
PLEASE, my lens is SHARP!!! I have it all together now and my lens is sharp as a tack at 1.2. Time for lthis post to ens

PLEASE I am now getting sharp results with my lens at 1.2. Thank you for your replies.


That's great. What was the problem earlier?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Aug 26, 2008 at 05:07 AM
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p.2 #6 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


I'm guessing user error by handholding & shooting with crazy shallow DOF, just like the many that had the same problem Yakim.

Edited on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:32 AM



Aug 26, 2008 at 09:32 AM
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p.2 #7 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


Yes,
The 85L is a miraculous lens!



RT.



Aug 26, 2008 at 09:37 AM
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p.2 #8 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


Mike1 wrote:
I'm guessing user error by handholding & shooting with crazy shallow DOF, just like the many that had the same problem Yakim.




Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Aug 27, 2008 at 02:16 AM
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p.2 #9 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


The problem was that I was shooting people in very dark conditions, at 1.2 at too slow a shutter speed. When I took the lens outside everything sharpened up. I was used to shooting my 200 f 2.8 at 1/50 second and getting sharp results. you can't shoot at those speed when using 1.2 because the slightest movement means everything out of focus. I now keep my speeds above 1/300 and preferably at 1/640 or better.


Aug 28, 2008 at 05:57 PM
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p.2 #10 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


That doesn't make much sense though. How do you get sharp shots at 200mm @ f2.8:1/50s, but unsharp shots at 85mm @ f1.2:1/100(assuming similar lighting)? If anything, the shorter focal length and increase in lens aperture should have REDUCED camera shake.

Am I missing something here? I've always assumed camera shake is camera shake, whether at f8 or f1.2.

PS: Glad you got things working though.

Edited on Aug 28, 2008 at 07:52 PM



Aug 28, 2008 at 07:48 PM
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jmvdigital wrote:
That doesn't make much sense though. How do you get sharp shots at 200mm @ f2.8:1/50s, but unsharp shots at 85mm @ f1.2:1/100(assuming similar lighting)? If anything, the shorter focal length and increase in lens aperture should have REDUCED camera shake.

Am I missing something here? I've always assumed camera shake is camera shake, whether at f8 or f1.2.

PS: Glad you got things working though.


Maybe the longer length of the 200 makes it easier to handhold?



Aug 28, 2008 at 11:02 PM
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p.2 #12 · 85mm f 1.2 MKII not sharp


Some of these samples I've seen are so sharp, I've now cut my fingers and I can't find the first-aid kit.

I've got a similar problem... Focus+recompose doesn't work with this lens, AI SERVO is the key here or to select your AF point. But even when i do the above, I get LOTS of CS and the lens is softer than my pillow.

I'll post some pics a bit later. I find the problem less obvious when there's not much light. Things sharpen up like a razor at f/2.



Aug 29, 2008 at 02:35 AM
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For starters with the 85L, a tripod and a flash, at -1/3 or -2/3 will do miracles at F1.2 and roundabout.

RT.



Aug 29, 2008 at 03:47 AM
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RT v Genugten wrote:
For starters with the 85L, a tripod and a flash, at -1/3 or -2/3 will do miracles at F1.2 and roundabout.


+1 and quoted for truth. Myself and a friend of mine (who incidentally, shoos with a Nikon D3 + 85 1.4) and we both get amazing resuls with this trick. Really balances out the colour but retains ambience. Don't be scared of ISO 1600 either



Aug 29, 2008 at 06:11 AM
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mordicai wrote:
you can't shoot at those speed when using 1.2 because the slightest movement means everything out of focus.


Hummmmm........

I wonder, why does it sound so familiar?



Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Aug 31, 2008 at 01:59 AM
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