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p.2 #1 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Mike V wrote:
What is the stop on the 18-200mm?

Is it IS?.

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Aug 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM

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p.2 #2 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Holy Rubbish! I'd expect face detection, and 15mp on a 5000D !

Aug 12, 2008 at 10:37 AM

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p.2 #3 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

So they will kiss the 17-85 goodbye?

Aug 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM

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p.2 #4 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

IMHO face detection works surprisingly well in Canon's P&S models.

If a small ELPH P&S with DIGIC III processor can handle the routine, I don't see why such a thing would be completely superfluous on a DSLR. You don't have to use it, but like so many features it can be handy.

I'm not waiting for the 50D, more interested in FF developments, but although there are many features that are more important to add or improve, I'd see this as an additional advantage (as a separate setting).

Aug 12, 2008 at 11:15 AM

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p.2 #5 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Face detection is already a feature of Digic III, so I doubt there's much extra work to enable it for a DSLR.

Aug 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM

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p.2 #6 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Well, it'll of course only be available with LiveView enabled. We're making DSLRs into P&S, and I don't like the trend. Not because I don't think that there are some good features to be passed between them, but I fear that soon the low end DSLRs will no longer be SLRs, and will simply kill the mirror altogether and make LCD only EF mount cameras. Ugh.

Aug 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM

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p.2 #7 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Face detection. Wow, lets keep dumbing down the cameras so every Billy Bob can use it at Disney in auto mode.

Aug 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM

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p.2 #8 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

I don't know anything about what the OP says is coming. I do know that the owner of National Camera in Minneapolis was invited to, and is attending this Canon dealer meeting in Hawaii'

Aug 12, 2008 at 12:33 PM

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p.2 #9 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

I know a guy who went to Hawaii once.

Aug 12, 2008 at 01:09 PM

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p.2 #10 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Information about this lens can already be found on one of Holland's biggest stores, look here

Aug 12, 2008 at 01:12 PM

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p.2 #11 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

This would be a bit surprising as it seems that an 18-200 type lens would be more likely to be in a kit with a Rebel series camera, and not a 10 series camera.

That, and the 40D really isnt all that old? HD LCD is nice, but face detection on this level of camera seems a bit like a joke.

I've been wrong before, but Im skeptical on this.

Aug 12, 2008 at 01:16 PM

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p.2 #12 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

deepbluejh wrote:
This would be a bit surprising as it seems that an 18-200 type lens would be more likely to be in a kit with a Rebel series camera, and not a 10 series camera.

Not really surprising as the current 40D kit options are the 28-135 3.5-5.6/17-85 4-5.6 and the Rebel kits include the 18-55. Moreover, the D300 is paired with either the 18-200 or the 18-135 in its kits.

An 18-200 3.5-5.6 IS or 18-135 3.5-5.6 IS would at least supplant the 28-135 offering.

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Aug 12, 2008 at 01:39 PM

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p.2 #13 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

deepbluejh wrote:
HD LCD is nice, but face detection on this level of camera seems a bit like a joke. I've been wrong before, but Im skeptical on this.

I think the "leak" might have been slightly confused and mixed up the specs with those of the new PowerShot G10...

Aug 12, 2008 at 01:43 PM

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p.2 #14 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

I guess it all depends if this rumoured 50D is full frame or not. A 1.6x fov crop 15mp sensor is going to be well beyond the optical resolution of most L lenses. 15mp Full frame will be far less demanding of the the optical sharpness of a lens.
I wonder if that's what Canon intend to do to head off Nikon's D3/D700 threat? Push out a new full frame 5DII and a new full frame 50D?
These are interesting times!

Aug 12, 2008 at 02:19 PM

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p.2 #15 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Well, I don't think 15MP is that much larger pixel wise than the 12MP XSi. Since it's an area the actual pixel dimensions aren't increasing quite as fast as the MP implies, especially once you get to the higher MP counts. The noise is quite nicely controlled on the Xsi, so maybe they would be able to pull it off.

Aug 12, 2008 at 02:21 PM

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p.2 #16 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Yawn. Another stupid rumor and waste of bandwidth. Yawn.

Edit: this comment was directed at the speculation posts, not at the original post.

Edited by VisualPerceptions on Aug 12, 2008 at 03:36 PM GMT

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Aug 12, 2008 at 02:55 PM

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p.2 #17 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

lbcast wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it on this page
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=111

Watch that space between Aug. 26 and 27 if all you believe are official announcements.

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:02 PM

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p.2 #18 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Mattbtn wrote:
So, a "good" friend called you today from the Canon dealer meeting, and he felt more compelled to talk to you about future P&S cameras instead of new SLRs?

Hmmm...

In the real world things don't revolve around mid-level DSLRs, P&S sales make up far more of Canon's, and thus the dealers, sales.

As far as the people quoting specs here, don't confuse those with what I have posted. It is not going to be 15MP. Look at my history here and you'll see I have been around a long time and I don't randomly post what I "think" might be coming. I have no reason to doubt what a dealer tells me that I have known for many years. YMMV so if you think I am not a trustworthy source, no need to return to, or even read, this thread.

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:07 PM

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p.2 #19 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

VisualPerceptions wrote:
Yawn. Another stupid rumor and waste of bandwidth. Yawn.

See post immediately above. I don't post rumors, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:08 PM

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p.2 #20 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

The 60D comes with a 10-250mm f2.8-f4.5 IS lens. Watch for it on or about August 26, 2009.

This was confirmed by a friend of mine who works at Nikon.

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:08 PM

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p.2 #21 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Harmmerli,

What you say seems to make some sense. Waiting until end of Sep 08 to announce the 5D replacement allows time to clear out inventory of existing stock. As Ben Horne stated in another thread, the 5D is no longer being delivered by Canon to dealers. In the meant time, Canon can announce a 40D replacement to keep the mid-level hobbyist excitement up and keep Canon users from jumping to Sony or Nikon.

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:16 PM

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p.2 #22 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

There are many misconceptions about increased pixel count. More pixels does not mean worse performance: if you resize your 15 MP image at ISO 1600 to 10 MP (i.e. same print size as 40D), it may very well look better. On the other hand, you gain the flexibility of having larger prints at low ISO. In addition, diffraction is caused by reduced aperture size at the lens. More pixels only helps to show up the diffraction (when one pixel peeps at 100%) AFTER it's taken place. It does not make it any worse.

I believe Canon is pushing APS-C towards the lower-end masses. That may explain face detection etc. They are probably leveling the 50D at the Nikon D90 crowd. As for the rest of you in this forum, you are urged to upgrade to FF if you have not done so.

BTW, Nikon is ready to push out their Nikon D90 any minute (Thom Hogan has already leaked the specs for it), and the delay in announcement is probably timed to coincide with the release of the 50D.

Edited by thw2 on Aug 12, 2008 at 03:35 PM GMT

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Aug 12, 2008 at 03:25 PM

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p.2 #23 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Hammerli wrote:
VisualPerceptions wrote:
Yawn. Another stupid rumor and waste of bandwidth. Yawn.

See post immediately above. I don't post rumors, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Hammerli,

Please accept my apologies. Your original post was fine and I appreciate your sharing the information with us. My comment was directed to the other posters who added speculation to it (e.g. 15 MP, ISO 3200, face detection, HD lcd, 6.5 FPS, improve AF ...) and not to you who, thankfully, shared realistic information.

j.

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Aug 12, 2008 at 03:32 PM

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p.2 #24 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

The big news is that along with "11x optical zoom" they're going to introduce "4x digital zoom". That's why the 15MP. That's why it needs a direct print button. Face detection will have custom functions for degrees of beauty.

And I mean no disrespect to the reasonable speculations, I just like to laugh once in a while.

Edited on Aug 12, 2008 at 03:43 PM

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:40 PM

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p.2 #25 · 50D to come with 18-200 in kit.

Visualperceptions

I now is hard to belive but wait copule weeks and you will see that I'm correct.
I can't tell more because...
The 5D replacement (I don't now the name yet) will be anounce in September and will come out with even more MP (around 21).

Aug 12, 2008 at 03:44 PM


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