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LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #1 · Mint Moth First time I've caught one of these displaying the underwing and abdomen. Flash Vs natural light comparison. I dropped the colour temp of the flash shot to my normal 5200'C. The colour match seems quite good. Both shots focus stacked Brian V. Flash Natural light Aug 07, 2008 at 07:17 AM

melsen Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #2 · Mint Moth Wow Brian... this is by far the most impressive moth I've ever seen I think.... ... and the pictures are cool too =) haha.... Aug 07, 2008 at 09:12 AM

Eyvind Ness Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #3 · Mint Moth Handsome creature, very well captured I like the flash shot best. Or it could be I prefer f10 to f4, or maybe there are stacking differences. The natural light shot looks a little duller, perhaps? Aug 07, 2008 at 09:24 AM

David OShea Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #4 · Mint Moth Beautiful shots Brian. The flash shot looks to have more contrast. Which I like. Though the soft light of the sun is very appealing. Dave OS Aug 07, 2008 at 10:23 AM

michael kilner Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #5 · Mint Moth lovely shots,prefer no1 Aug 07, 2008 at 01:03 PM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #6 · Mint Moth Thanks for the comments all You would expect to get a bit more contrast and saturation with flash but you do get nicer bokeh with natural light. brian V. Aug 07, 2008 at 05:39 PM

Igor Shuryak Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #7 · Mint Moth Nice shots! Bright colors. Aug 07, 2008 at 06:10 PM

Fizzog Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #8 · Mint Moth Great shot; is it made from bits of carpet! Oddly, it's not in my books, but UKMoth has it under Pyrausta aurata, and as I've never seen one, I'm off to find some mint Aug 07, 2008 at 10:32 PM

rozdesign Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #9 · Mint Moth excellent shot of the moth .. his wings look almost like a tapestry .. beautiful colours . interesting the diff between the flash and the natural lighting .. better detail/contrast on the moth with the flash, but i love the oof in the background with the natural lighting .. Eyvind Ness mentioned the diff fstops .. which i cant access .. ?? but surely you can still get that beautiful softness if you use your external flash .. just upping the shutter speed to compensate if you're letting in too much light .. i'm a sucker for a shallow depth of field . i love the effect .. Edited on Aug 07, 2008 at 11:37 PM Aug 07, 2008 at 11:37 PM

John Wolff Offline Buy and Sell: On p.1 #10 · Mint Moth Brian, nice shots, both of them...John Aug 08, 2008 at 01:18 AM

Mstic Online Buy and Sell: On p.1 #11 · Mint Moth thanks for the comparison lovely subject Aug 08, 2008 at 03:51 AM

Eyvind Ness Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #12 · Mint Moth rozdesign wrote: excellent shot of the moth .. his wings look almost like a tapestry .. beautiful colours . interesting the diff between the flash and the natural lighting .. better detail/contrast on the moth with the flash, but i love the oof in the background with the natural lighting .. Eyvind Ness mentioned the diff fstops .. which i cant access .. ?? but surely you can still get that beautiful softness if you use your external flash .. just upping the shutter speed to compensate if you're letting in too much light .. i'm a sucker for a shallow depth of field . i love the effect .. I did mention this. If you right-click on the images, and select Properties, you should be able to get to a dialog that displays exif-data. I am pretty sure the difference in bg blur is due to the f-stop differences, f10 vs f4, and not the quality of light. However, I believe Brian stated these are stacks, and if the individual pictures within the stack have differing f-stops, this theory falls apart. Aug 08, 2008 at 05:41 AM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #13 · Mint Moth Thanks for the comments and discussion Fizzog - think this one is actually Pyrausta purpuralis but it's very similar to P. aurata Rozdesign - I could open up the aperture on the flash shots although I'd probably end up with almost natural light shots. Fraid I Like to get as much of the insect as possible in focus - even at F10 you do not get that at this magnification with a single shot given the shooting angles. I'm fairly certain that the in focus parts of the moths wing in both shots have nearly the same resolution but the flash shots will look sharper due to the higher contrast. Brian V. Aug 08, 2008 at 06:07 AM

Eyvind Ness Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #14 · Mint Moth LordV wrote: Thanks for the comments and discussion Rozdesign - I could open up the aperture on the flash shots although I'd probably end up with almost natural light shots. Brian V. ... or perhaps you could just close the aperture on the natural light shots to f10 also. Then we could concentrate on comparing the quality of light, and eliminate f-stop as a parameter. Now the comparison is difficult, since both the aperture and the light is different in these excellent shots. Aug 08, 2008 at 06:34 AM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #15 · Mint Moth Eyvind Ness wrote: LordV wrote: Thanks for the comments and discussion Rozdesign - I could open up the aperture on the flash shots although I'd probably end up with almost natural light shots. Brian V. ... or perhaps you could just close the aperture on the natural light shots to f10 also. Then we could concentrate on comparing the quality of light, and eliminate f-stop as a parameter. Now the comparison is difficult, since both the aperture and the light is different in these excellent shots. If only I had enough natural shaded light to do that I did focus stack both moths to elliminate DOF/aperture effects as far as the moth was concerned. Neither apertures used would have been giving significant diffraction softening. Brian V. Aug 08, 2008 at 09:46 AM

Jody Melanson Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #16 · Mint Moth Cool looking Moth! Aug 08, 2008 at 01:18 PM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #17 · Mint Moth Jody Melanson wrote: Cool looking Moth! Thanks Jody - these are one of the prettier small moths and are day flying.- Pity about the mint though. Brian V. Aug 09, 2008 at 06:09 AM

Tim Dollear Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #18 · Mint Moth each pic on it's own is great but having the comparison is really helpful. The increased DOF with flash is very appealing. quick question: How do you glue the moth to the flower so they don't fly away? Aug 09, 2008 at 11:12 AM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #19 · Mint Moth Tim Dollear wrote: each pic on it's own is great but having the comparison is really helpful. The increased DOF with flash is very appealing. quick question: How do you glue the moth to the flower so they don't fly away? Thanks You just have to talk to them nicely Aug 09, 2008 at 06:47 PM

MichAg92 Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #20 · Mint Moth wow - this is one beautiful moth. I prefer the nat light shot, but both are beauties. Aug 09, 2008 at 10:41 PM

lextalionis Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #21 · Mint Moth I like them both equally as well...each very well done! -Roy Aug 10, 2008 at 02:02 AM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #22 · Mint Moth Thanks Amy and Roy Amy- This was nearly a no photo shoot- I was happy just looking at the moth through the lens. Brian V. Aug 10, 2008 at 06:18 AM

remus Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #23 · Mint Moth Superb colors on these Brian! Like them both maybe the first a little more. Regards, Remus Aug 10, 2008 at 09:34 AM

Gary Thompson Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #24 · Mint Moth Great captures of a very colorful moth. Aug 10, 2008 at 08:38 PM

LordV Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #25 · Mint Moth Thanks Remy and Gary for the comments Brian V. Aug 11, 2008 at 05:50 AM

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