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p.2 #1 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Shasoc wrote:
P.S I do "plastic surgery" on the butterfly wings to fix some torns.

OMG, Socrate is now like Frankenstein.

Sorry Karl and Socrate, couldn't resist.

Tim

Aug 06, 2008 at 04:36 AM

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p.2 #2 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Karl my friend,

I stay out of the forum most of the day only to come back to realize - the forum's gone NutZ

z

Anthony's threatening to go to DPR. Chad, Tim & even Maggie - - well they're all on a roll. In several thread.

What's going on

There's no full moon tonight - I know that for sure.

Anyhow, back to your butterflies...

I like # 1, 3, & 4

And in this case - - I would not repair the wings personally. Too much work.

Lil

Aug 06, 2008 at 05:50 AM

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p.2 #3 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Karl,

Not that I know much about Flutterby shooting, but I'd say you've held your own very well against the Butterfly Big Boyz here, though I'm dismayed to hear that Socrate engages in a little post-processing fraud in fixing their wings. Another hero bites the dust...

Picks are #s 4, 5 and 9, purely from an aesthetic level...

Best Wishes,
Steve

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:29 PM

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p.2 #4 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Very nice series, Karl!! Other's here have suggested you need more depth of field, and I agree to a certain extent. If you go too deep, you run the risk of rendering a rather flat looking image, and even having the background interfere. As you point out, it's all part of the learning curve, and sometimes it's simply a matter of personal taste.

And if there's one thing I have learned it's that it is nigh on impossible to get a butterfly in absolutely pristine condition!! Virtually every one I've shot has had wings that were either frayed or had obvious chunks bitten out of them, and everything in between. Some are so messed up, I can't believe they can still fly!!

Frank

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:44 PM

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p.2 #5 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

MaggieBee wrote:
Shasoc wrote:
MaggieBee wrote:
Karl, I know how frustrating butterflies can be, and for once, I'll actually disagree with Socrate

in that I would never try and repair a wing - just find another subject

You did very well with these and I hope you have more opportunities that offer you more variety.

Maggie that is the main reason why all the butterflies come to my backyard to have their pictures taken.

Socrate

Your butterflies are so lucky, Socrate

Maggie and Socrate, I think the 'Plastic Surgery' is State sponsored and probably pays $ very well, great way to afford 'L' lenses

Oh, and by the way, neither one of you have to worry about me doing surgery to fix a wing, or any other missing part, I wouldn't know where to start...............yet

I will have to send mine out for surgery

Karl

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:52 PM

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p.2 #6 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Lil Judd wrote:
Karl my friend,

I stay out of the forum most of the day only to come back to realize - the forum's gone NutZ

z

Anthony's threatening to go to DPR. Chad, Tim & even Maggie - - well they're all on a roll. In several thread.

What's going on

There's no full moon tonight - I know that for sure.

Anyhow, back to your butterflies...

I like # 1, 3, & 4

And in this case - - I would not repair the wings personally. Too much work.

Lil

Lil, yes things were in rare form last night, must be all the buttz, speaking of that, where the heck is Nello

And I think Maggie was 'sending' Ant to DPR

None the less, thanks for a bit of sanity in your reply, I think I will remember this post for quite some time!

Karl

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:54 PM

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Anti Matter wrote:
Very nice series, Karl!! Other's here have suggested you need more depth of field, and I agree to a certain extent. If you go too deep, you run the risk of rendering a rather flat looking image, and even having the background interfere. As you point out, it's all part of the learning curve, and sometimes it's simply a matter of personal taste.

And if there's one thing I have learned it's that it is nigh on impossible to get a butterfly in absolutely pristine condition!! Virtually every one I've shot has had wings that were either frayed or had obvious chunks bitten out of them, and everything in between. Some are so messed up, I can't believe they can still fly!!

Frank

Apparently Shasoc (Socrate) has all the perfect ones

Or at least we don't know any better

It is good when things don't go as planned, makes you try a lot harder next time! There wasn't much room to work, very few subjects and not a heavily planted area to have good BG and the darn screening sure didn't look good as a BG. Anyhow, a great lesson, and certainly well worth it.
Thanks much for commenting!
Karl

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:59 PM

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p.2 #8 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Whatcha doing posting picks of a broken winged butterfly. You're supposed to shot the ones with perfect symmetry and stuff

Still, nice work on the gimpy B'Fly Karl!

Zoom

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Aug 06, 2008 at 01:12 PM

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p.2 #9 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

trailhiker wrote:
Karl,

Not that I know much about Flutterby shooting, but I'd say you've held your own very well against the Butterfly Big Boyz here, though I'm dismayed to hear that Socrate engages in a little post-processing fraud in fixing their wings. Another hero bites the dust...

Picks are #s 4, 5 and 9, purely from an aesthetic level...

Best Wishes,
Steve

I don't know if I have held up to any of the big boyz but at least I got a few mistakes out of the way for next time Steve

I guess if we were all purists when it came to PP then there wouldn't be any PP! Shoot it, and like it or leave it, oh how that would change things for all of us

Thanks for the picks, there will be more to come!
Karl

Aug 06, 2008 at 01:20 PM

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p.2 #10 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Need more subjects of interest in a better local to experiment with, I can see it takes a great deal of effort to put together a stunning one, so my quest begins

Karl

Aug 07, 2008 at 02:04 AM

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p.2 #11 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Mr Zoom wrote:
Whatcha doing posting picks of a broken winged butterfly. You're supposed to shot the ones with perfect symmetry and stuff

Still, nice work on the gimpy B'Fly Karl!

Zoom

Geez Ken, my wings look like your shutter curtain

Socrate can fix my wings, maybe he would take a stab at your camera

Sorry, had to remind you of that situation.............Thanks for commenting

Karl

Aug 07, 2008 at 02:05 AM

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p.2 #12 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Karl, my favorite is the last one. Nicely isolated. Very beautiful. With regard to butterflies I do use quite often f5.6 when the wings are almost in the focal plane. Otherwise you have to stop down very much to get the proper DOF. Nevertheless nice pleasing captures. Congrats.

Jude

Aug 07, 2008 at 02:18 AM

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p.2 #13 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Jude Perera wrote:
Karl, my favorite is the last one. Nicely isolated. Very beautiful. With regard to butterflies I do use quite often f5.6 when the wings are almost in the focal plane. Otherwise you have to stop down very much to get the proper DOF. Nevertheless nice pleasing captures. Congrats.

Jude

Thank you Jude, appreciate the tips.

Karl

Aug 07, 2008 at 02:25 AM

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p.2 #14 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

very very well done!

Aug 07, 2008 at 04:18 AM

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p.2 #15 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

raymondjbarlow wrote:
very very well done!
Why thank you Raymond

Karl

Aug 07, 2008 at 02:03 PM

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p.2 #16 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Hey Karl... couldn't they get a butterfly without knarly wing tips for crying out loud... this is the most challenging subject there is... well maybe man eating Tigers are a bit harder... they get kinda funny when you get close to them when they are eating... but I digress...

You did Ok on these... PM me and I tell you where my favorite spot is for Butters... and the season is right from now until fall. I use the 500 on a monopod to shoot em.

Don't get discouraged kid... these will drive you crazy.

T

Edited by Terry D on Aug 07, 2008 at 12:22 PM GMT

Edited on Aug 07, 2008 at 03:22 PM

Aug 07, 2008 at 02:16 PM

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p.2 #17 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Very nice Karl, I see you are getting lots of advice. I'd suggest that you go to Costa Rica where the butterflies are big and colourful and numerous. Just to practice you know.

Aug 07, 2008 at 03:00 PM

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p.2 #18 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Hey Karl,

Nice job with these. Butterfly gardens are great places to get shots. There is a local one here that I have gone to the last couple of years - http://www.pbase.com/jasonjg/brookside. Usually the variety of species is much better than you experienced but I love that last shot of the yellow butterfly. Very well done.

J

Aug 07, 2008 at 03:06 PM

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p.2 #19 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Terry D wrote:
Hey Karl... couldn't they get a butterfly without knarly wing tips for crying out loud... this is the most challenging subject there is... well maybe man eating Tigers are a bit harder... they get kinda funny when you get close to them when they are eating... but I digress...

You did Ok on these... PM me and I tell you where my favorite spot is for Butters... and the season is right from now until fall. I use the 500 on a monopod to shoot em.

Don't get discouraged kid... these will drive you crazy.

T

Edited by Terry D on Aug 07, 2008 at 12:22 PM GMT
PM on the way! Agreed, a challenging subject but very interesting and colorful

Thanks T

Rob Tillyer wrote:
Very nice Karl, I see you are getting lots of advice. I'd suggest that you go to Costa Rica where the butterflies are big and colourful and numerous. Just to practice you know.

Rob, those are the words of a man using his head, I have sent for my passport buddy

on my way to where the butters are big and colorful

Meanwhile, reality is, I will keep practicing locally

Thanks Rob

jakita33 wrote:
Hey Karl,

Nice job with these. Butterfly gardens are great places to get shots. There is a local one here that I have gone to the last couple of years - http://www.pbase.com/jasonjg/brookside. Usually the variety of species is much better than you experienced but I love that last shot of the yellow butterfly. Very well done.

J
Nice shots on your link Jason, another photo subject I will now have to find time to pursue

Thanks J

Thanks....................

Karl

Aug 07, 2008 at 10:00 PM

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Rob Tillyer wrote:
Very nice Karl, I see you are getting lots of advice. I'd suggest that you go to Costa Rica where the butterflies are big and colourful and numerous. Just to practice you know.

Karl, no need to go to Costa Rica! Come to Maryland! Local Conservatory has a summer "Flights of Fancy" butterfly exhibit all summer. Butterflies from North America, Costa Rica and Asia. On Saturdays and Sundays there is a 2 hour "Photographer's Only" all eqpt invited, 10 photographer's only, shoot. The Conservatory has a huge greehouse with exotic plants for the butterflies and it is most enjoyable.
Wonderful work! Many look "painting like".
Dan

Edited on Aug 08, 2008 at 09:56 AM

Aug 08, 2008 at 09:55 AM

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p.2 #21 · Flutterby Butterflies....(10)

Great series Karl..............I love the color and sharpness. Way to go my friend.

Ted

Aug 08, 2008 at 06:15 PM

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Wow Well Done very Nice. Ed

Aug 08, 2008 at 06:28 PM

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davidearls wrote:
Karl,

Enjoyed this post. This is all good work, and as you know, it's hard work. Too bad your monarchs were damaged. It looks like you made a lot of progress in capturing them. I'm in the Socrate camp on monarchs, they're not as interesting as we wish. That said, you learn to shoot a monarch and all of butterflydom is at your command.

The clouded sulphur is a fine butterfly shot no matter what. Cream of the crop.

Hope you keep after these guys - they will push you to new skills -

Love the tenth -
Apologies, missed your comment to reply on

Thanks David and I intend on staying after them, glad you like the sulphur shot

Karl

Aug 08, 2008 at 11:27 PM

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Kitehog wrote:
Much better than my first attempts. Great color in these,

I just put a BFly bush in my back yard so hopefully Ill get to try again.

Hi Greg, missed you on a timely reply, sorry buddy! You'll do fine on your next attemp I am sure! Thanks for commenting

Karl

Aug 08, 2008 at 11:28 PM

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mdbassman wrote:
Rob Tillyer wrote:
Very nice Karl, I see you are getting lots of advice. I'd suggest that you go to Costa Rica where the butterflies are big and colourful and numerous. Just to practice you know.

Thanks for the invite

Karl

Aug 08, 2008 at 11:30 PM


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