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p.1 #1 · Daytona Beach 07


Hello everyone,
I have enjoyed looking at the pictures posted here and thought I would share some that I taken. These are some of my favorites, would welcome constructive criticism.
I am going to attach one picture to this post and reply to my post with two more, I'm not sure if this the best way to post pictures here, as I see other post with multiple pictures attached, any help would be apperciated.
Thanks,
Louis






Jul 29, 2008 at 07:01 PM
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p.1 #2 · Daytona Beach 07


I believe this was the Detroit airport concourse.






Jul 29, 2008 at 07:02 PM
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p.1 #3 · Daytona Beach 07


I took this one yesterday, working on ideas that I picked up on this web site.






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Jul 29, 2008 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #4 · Daytona Beach 07


1 - nice 2/3 down horizon, nice colors, nice depth. I am not sure that the man works in this picture - perhaps if you were lower down and behind him with him a bit bigger. The banch on right also either needs to be further in or out. You have the right idea - without some foreground interest this picture is too plain but the foreground interest needs to complement.

2 - very nice - is the best of the 3 posts for me. Silhouets are great and the plane is great showing busyness in front of the plane. It would be better if the silhouets did not overlap as much but that is tough. Good exposure, depth and compostion.

3 - nice colors, nice bokeh, good focus, good exposure but for me the butterfly needs to be much bigger in the frame.

Jul 30, 2008 at 01:12 AM
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p.1 #5 · Daytona Beach 07


Hello Scott,
I certainly apperciate your thoughtful and generous comments. I am looking at what I posted to see how I could, in practice, implement some improvements based on your critique.

Number 1 is the one I worried the most about, I could easily see why someone would not like it at all. I believe that is the full frame of the shot showing, I am going to look at recomposing the picture.

I had considered exactly your thoughts about the overlapping of the silhouettes in picture 2, but I still wanted to post the picture.

Picture 3 is the full frame, I really liked the bokeh, I couldn't bring myself to crop it, but I know you are correct, I should have cropped the shot.
That was about as close as I could get, I was using my 24-105 lens, if I had my Macro lens at the time, I would have been closer to the subject and I would not had to worry about cropping the nice bokeh.
Many thanks,
Louis

Jul 30, 2008 at 03:31 AM
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p.1 #6 · Daytona Beach 07


A few suggestions for number three you might want to try, assuming you have PS:

0. Copy the image and edit the copy.
1. In a PS adjustment levels layer, trim the right toe of the levels, perhaps to something like 210-220.
2. In a PS curves adjustment layer, adjust the middle third of the curve to make it *slightly* steeper to add a little visual snap. (Skip this if my suggestion for this step is confusing.)
3. In a color balance adjustment layer reduce the blue slightly, perhaps about -10.
4. In a hue and saturation adjustment layer bump the saturation by between +5 and +10.
5. Flatten the layers.
6. Apply the unsharp mask (filters), try an amount between 80 and 100%, a radius between 1.2 and 1.6, and perhaps a threshold between 10 and 15.
7. Crop about 1/6th off the left side of the image and between 1/10th and 1/8th off the top. You might crop more later, but it would be an interesting first cut. Maybe a bit off the right later, too.

See whether you like the edited image better.



Aug 08, 2008 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #7 · Daytona Beach 07


Hello Karen,
Thank you very much for the directions, I do believe that the picture looks better. I can see that I need to get involved with a PS workshop, it makes all the difference.
Louis






Exif information
Model Canon EOS 20D
Date 2008:08:09 19:48:30
Original date 2008:07:28 05:41:54
Exposure time 1/320 sec
Focal length 105mm
ISO speed 100 ISO
Exposure compensation 0.0



Aug 09, 2008 at 11:49 PM
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p.1 #8 · Daytona Beach 07


While you're adjusting things in Photoshop, you might try using the "Filter > Distort > Lens Correction..." menu on the second image to straighten up the window panes. I think the nice, strong geometrical motif in the image would look a lot better if it wasn't slightly off-kilter (this is just a preference of mine, perspective/tilt should either be obviously tilted or completely straight, not partway between).

Aug 10, 2008 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #9 · Daytona Beach 07


Much better! You are most welcome, Louis. Some may call it cheating, but if there are bits you'd like to change, there are ways are other tricks you can use to improve an image. For example, if you decide the bright area of the twig near the butter's left tail blends into a yellow patch on the tail too much, you can use the clone stamp to change the twig. By selecting the clone to proper green tones you can re-color the twig. You can also down tone other bright parts of the twig if they distract from the butterfly. See the example subset. You might want to give it a try. It takes practice an patience, but it's a powerful tool for changing and polishing an image.

PS is extremely feature rich. I have so much more to learn, but fortunately you don't need to know much to be dangerous.






Aug 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
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p.1 #10 · Daytona Beach 07


Hello Michael,
Thank you for your suggestions. I gave it a shot, in addition to the Distort Filter, I used the Rectangular Marquee Tool / Free and Skew Transform, making my breaks in the frames of the window, I believe your suggestions have helped the picture.
I also adjusted the gamma and Level setting to bring out a bit more blue in the sky. After starting the changes you suggested, I realized that I all my the pictures had a washed out look. I used some of Karen's suggestions for the butterfly shot on this one.
I find it amazing how much easier it is too learn technique, when you have another person's feedback.
Thanks again,
Louis






Aug 11, 2008 at 11:46 AM
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p.1 #11 · Daytona Beach 07


Hi Scott,
I worked on the Daytona Beach shot, I cropped it some, to bring in the plant to the left side and I was able to bring out some of the color.
I think I am going to try this one again next February, using better equipment and trying some different things.
Thanks again,
Louis


Update: I am replacing the 2nd try with this effort.


Edited by Louis_Chr on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM GMT

Edited by Louis_Chr on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:36 PM GMT

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Aug 11, 2008 at 06:27 PM
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p.1 #12 · Daytona Beach 07


Karen,
I tried it, it seems that my eye is drawn to the area that I changed. Perhaps I would not notice the change so much, if I did not know about it.
I used a number of PS features, burn tool, blur tool, the magic selection tool and I adjusted the exposure settings after I selected the areas I changed. There is no doubt an easier way to accomplish the same results, but I feel good about the work, for a beginner.
Many Thanks,
Louis

After reviewing your example, I most likely did too much.






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Aug 12, 2008 at 03:49 AM
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p.1 #13 · Daytona Beach 07


We learn by doing. I think you did it very well. The final Butterfly in much better than the original. The sky color on the revised first image is more interesting, too. The airport image is improved as well. One big reason I enjoy learning PS is I don't have to wait long for the visual rewards.

Aug 12, 2008 at 05:24 AM
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p.1 #14 · Daytona Beach 07


I really like the idea of #2 but the composition could be improved a little I think, the left side of the image seems a little empty.


Aug 15, 2008 at 08:47 AM

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