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David Baldwin
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p.4 #1 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


Hello Makten,

"Was it really gorgeous? From what I've seen, it was pretty soft wide open. And why have fast lenses if not to shoot wide open?"

Compare the 28mm f1.4 with a fast Sigma wide at full aperture, or even the excellent Canon 24L f1.4 and you will realize how very special the Nikkor was.

I've had the Nikkor 28mm f1.4 as my main lens since 1996, never ever stopped it down so I don't know how good it was at f2, 2.8 etc, care even less), for low light shooters it was a lens in a million (works a treat on my Canon now ;-)

Nikon are bloody good at making fast wides, pity they don't make any!

All at f1.4 with the Nikkor 28:

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http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/la14.html
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Come on Nikon, start making some decent Noct type lenses. Not all of us are happy to settle for f2.8 zooms. Professional systems require professional lenses, and at present Canon offer a more comprehensive choice (even though the Nikkor 12-24 f2.8 is admittedly very special too).

At present Canon have the 24mm f1.4L, the 28mm f1.8. What do Nikon offer?, a 35mm f2. Its depressing.



Jul 18, 2008 at 03:33 PM
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Hello Andre,

Well guys, I didn't mean to spark off a DX/FX debate

"As it currently stands, FX privdes ONE and only ONE advantage: high ISO performance."

Well, that's not all. I freely concede that for wildlife and telephoto use DX is advantageous. However, even though telephotos love DX sadly wide lenses don't. If Nikon really are commited to DX then I hope they will bring out some fast, wide lenses specially designed for that format.

If I am honest I am biased in favour of FX because I like low noise and want a wide range of professional (wide) lenses. Canon do it for FX (24 f1.4L, 28 f1.8, 35 f1.4L), lets see if Nikon follow suit (for EITHER DX or FX).

I think that the marketing behind the photographic industry is a bit like the music industry. They sold us LPs, then tapes, then CDs, now they want to migrate us all to MP3. In the photographic industry they sold us film, then DX, and I suspect the marketing pressure will be to encourage us to buy FX.

Could be wrong of course. If I am then the hallmark that proves me wrong will be Nikon and Canon bringing out more specialized DX glass, like perspective control, fast primes, wide primes. I am waiting.

Jul 18, 2008 at 05:36 PM
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FX also provides a shallower DOF, and the advantage of having your lenses actual be the perspective they were intended to have. To me, those are bigger advantages than high ISO performance.

Jul 18, 2008 at 05:55 PM
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RyanFlynn wrote:
FX also provides a shallower DOF, and the advantage of having your lenses actual be the perspective they were intended to have. To me, those are bigger advantages than high ISO performance.


The DOF issue is a trade-off, NOT and advantage per say. If you want shallow DOF for a given FOV, you do not have to use as wide an aperture with FX. But, if you want lots of DOF, DX is the easier format to use.


Jul 18, 2008 at 06:09 PM
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David Baldwin wrote:
Hello Andre,

Well guys, I didn't mean to spark off a DX/FX debate

"As it currently stands, FX privdes ONE and only ONE advantage: high ISO performance."

Well, that's not all. I freely concede that for wildlife and telephoto use DX is advantageous. However, even though telephotos love DX sadly wide lenses don't. If Nikon really are commited to DX then I hope they will bring out some fast, wide lenses specially designed for that format.

If I am honest I am biased in favour of FX because I like low noise and want a wide range of professional (wide) lenses. Canon do it for FX (24 f1.4L, 28 f1.8, 35 f1.4L), lets see if Nikon follow suit (for EITHER DX or FX).

I think that the marketing behind the photographic industry is a bit like the music industry. They sold us LPs, then tapes, then CDs, now they want to migrate us all to MP3. In the photographic industry they sold us film, then DX, and I suspect the marketing pressure will be to encourage us to buy FX.

Could be wrong of course. If I am then the hallmark that proves me wrong will be Nikon and Canon bringing out more specialized DX glass, like perspective control, fast primes, wide primes. I am waiting.


If you need FOV wider than 18mm FX equivalent, then yes, you need to use FX. By the same token, if you want more reach with lighter glass or need reach beyond 600 f/4, then you need to use DX (or a TC if you can afford the loss of stops). Granted with DX there is only one wide lens, the 12-24, but people also use the 14-24 and you can't get better than that on either format. Granted, for some people 21mm FOV is not wide, but for most it is plenty. I suspect more people want reach than want wide, and many pro shooters want both. AND there is always a market for 95% of the performance at less than 50% of the cost. For those reasons, DX will survive for a long time.

Either way, I STILL WANT SOME FAST PRIMES!!! A 55mm f/1.2 on DX or an 85mm f/1.2 on FX. Both with AFS, VR is optional.

Edited on Jul 18, 2008 at 06:16 PM


Jul 18, 2008 at 06:16 PM
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Actually, I want my proposed 120-300 f/2.8 and the 105-200 micro more than the fast primes .... somehow I think I will see the primes in my lifetime ... not so sure about the zooms.

Jul 18, 2008 at 06:24 PM
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i would like a rear filter adaptor for the 14-24

Jul 18, 2008 at 09:25 PM

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