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Archive 2008 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

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p.3 #1 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

Nonsense! Everybody knows pulitzers are won and lost based on what is on the 1mm borders of photos.

Jul 06, 2008 at 03:58 AM

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p.3 #2 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

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Edited on Jul 06, 2008 at 04:01 AM

Jul 06, 2008 at 03:58 AM

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p.3 #3 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

Frode wrote:

Yes, I know that the sensor covers 100%, but I only see 95%. Therefore I don`t actually see what`s captured...

You see 100% when you review the image. "Full format" refers to the size of the sensor, not what you see in the VF.

Edited on Jul 06, 2008 at 05:02 AM

Jul 06, 2008 at 05:00 AM

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p.3 #4 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

so 23.9x36mm isn't really 35mm full frame either right? 95% is no big deal guys, let it go. Nothing here to argue about...

Jul 06, 2008 at 05:16 AM

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p.3 #5 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

Frode,

Photography is all about making compromises. You can continue shooting your 1D2 or buying either a 1Ds3 or D3, if moving to a 95% VF is beyond your willingness to compromise. Your only options are 100% or less than a 100%. Make the choice.

Jul 06, 2008 at 05:33 AM

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p.3 #6 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

James R wrote:
Frode,

Photography is all about making compromises. You can continue shooting your 1D2 or buying either a 1Ds3 or D3, if moving to a 95% VF is beyond your willingness to compromise. Your only options are 100% or less than a 100%. Make the choice.

After seeing the illustration, I agree that the "95%- issue" are not a problem ;-). Thanks.

I`ll go for the D700

I`ve also decided to go for 35 2.0 and 85 1.8 (mainly portraits). I also want a longer one, but I`m going to use that as a sport/longer portrait lens...what about 180 2.8 or 300 4 (continous AF...?)?

Jul 06, 2008 at 07:25 AM

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p.3 #7 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

Glad you are happy now - buy the camera and take the photos

The 35 and 85 are excellent focal lengths to use on a full-frame (I use those lengths on a 1Ds3). You may find that 180 isn't long enough, though - the 300 is likely to be more useful.

You may find a 50mm a useful length too - it is usually the fastest lens one can buy; team it with ISO 12800 or 25600 and you can shoot without flash most of the time.

Edited on Jul 06, 2008 at 07:44 AM

Jul 06, 2008 at 07:37 AM

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p.3 #8 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

For equal brightness a bigger sensor requires a bigger prism. That costs more and is difficult if a prosumer pop-up flash is included. So pro cameras put their money into the prism without a flash since-they (incorrectly) reason that a pro flash needs can best be dealt with with big accessory flashes.

Jul 11, 2008 at 12:50 AM

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p.3 #9 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

traveler wrote:
What a pathetic discussion. Can I laugh now or do I have to wait until later. Must be someone from the other Dark Side trying to stir up trouble because they can't be first anymore...awwww

Lee, I am 100% with you on this one with one exception, I did my laugh already at the beginning of this thread.

Julius

Jul 11, 2008 at 05:41 AM

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p.3 #10 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

bellyface wrote:
non-issue.

most 35mm SLRs of the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s were NEVER 100% viewfinders. There were some exceptions, like the high end eos, F4's F5's, F6. I seriously doubt working pros ever argued about 100% VF's.

Yep, bang on. In fact most of the full frame 35mm film cameras that weren't pro models were 92% VF.

Rene

Jul 11, 2008 at 07:00 AM

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p.3 #11 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

Dan Martin wrote:
I found this viewfinder comparison on DPreview:

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If that black line will make or break your shot, I don't think your shot had much hope to begin with.

Also, there's always liveview for those times where you need 100% coverage.

Dan, that figure is a bit misleading because it reflects the viewfinder size, not the coverage. Since the D700 viewfinder has higher magnification than the D3 viewfinder, they are almost the same size despite the 5% difference in coverage. Anyway, I have not once been troubled by the viewfinder coverage using a 5D for the past couple years. I have a D700 on order, and the 95% coverage was not a factor in my decision. If I ever have both the time and need for absolute framing precision, as you say Live View will be there for me.

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Jul 11, 2008 at 03:07 PM

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p.3 #12 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

I will say it again, if the biggest gripe you can find about the D700 is its not 100% coverage, I will take that ANYDAY over AF issues and bad copies.

Jul 11, 2008 at 03:15 PM

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p.3 #13 · D700 and 5D, not really FF?

I kind of understand where you are coming from. I feel that way too, but then I end up cropping a fair amount of shots anyhow.

I guess its better than seeing MORE than you will ultimately get...

Jul 11, 2008 at 05:01 PM

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