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p.108 #1 · "Admirable" blur samples


About mechanical vignetting again
5Dii + 85L




Dec 07, 2009 at 07:24 AM
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p.108 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jim Schemel wrote:
Zeiss Makro Planar on 5D.If any one knows what you call the plant that would be great
-Jim


Wow, that's a really nice shot. I like the blues.

lacksative wrote:
About mechanical vignetting again
5Dii + 85L



Any consensus on what causes it? My only guess is that the rear element is really large and that there's a rectangular area surrounding the sensor, which prevents a full circle from forming.



Dec 07, 2009 at 11:51 AM
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p.108 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples


kakomu wrote:
Any consensus on what causes it? My only guess is that the rear element is really large and that there's a rectangular area surrounding the sensor, which prevents a full circle from forming.


Correct. It is because the mirror box obstructs some light rays exiting the lens.

Note there are two effects here. First, the "football" shape of off-axis out of focus highlights is due to the geometry of the scene relative to the lens; the front element appears oval when viewed from an angle. This effect is visible even in lenses that have a smaller maximum aperture, but disappears as the focal length becomes long. This is because the narrower the angle of view, the only light rays that reach the image plane are those that are nearly parallel to the optical axis (and therefore they "see" the front element as nearly circular).

The secondary effect, which is a "clipping" of this football shape in very wide aperture lenses, is due to the aforementioned mirror box.



Dec 07, 2009 at 12:45 PM
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p.108 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples


CV 35/1.4 @ f/1.4 on M8:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nokton_35/L1001007.jpg



Dec 07, 2009 at 04:54 PM
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p.108 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jim Schemel wrote:
Zeiss Makro Planar on 5D.If any one knows what you call the plant that would be great
-Jim

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2740/4160734835_bc4bc6e806_b.jpg


It looks to me like a species of Solidago (Goldenrod).



Dec 07, 2009 at 06:02 PM
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p.108 #6 · "Admirable" blur samples


A bunch of Thank you's go out to Kent, philber, sebboh, Ulrikf, Yakim and Jos. I hope I haven't missed anybody. It feels good knowing that Indexing the images isn't a work in vacuum.

Here is what I think about it all.

I have no way to evaluate the point with the indexing. There are however some hints given at the forum. The reading counter ticks on. This tells me there is some interest for the thread. There are from time to time some commenting the Index, as above, and it happens I see posts in other threads referring to the "Admirable" thread when lenses are discussed.

I don't see the length of the Index posts as a problem. There is a blabbering limiter at the forum prohibiting posts weighting more than 60k. The three Index posts aren't really maxed out so the total weight is well under than 180k. That is less than most images posted at on-line forums. Sometimes I have been thinking of moving the Index to my own website to make it look nicer. Now some sections are in a mess, for example the Zeiss and Zenith lenses. But, I'm a bit lazy and it works as it is.

How long can this go on? I don't know. I update the Index, my local copy that is, from time to time. I get a good look at the images and if I don't forget about it it doesn't take a lot of time. As long as people are posting images and the reading counter moves I see no reason to ask people stop.

Jos: If you would like to sort of get in charge for this thread, rather than starting a new one, please be my guest. Just send me a PM.

Cheers,

/Jonas



Dec 07, 2009 at 06:48 PM
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p.108 #7 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jim, it may be a Solidago, I don't know. But, what lens did you use?


Dec 07, 2009 at 06:50 PM
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p.108 #8 · "Admirable" blur samples


This thread is a great resource, Jonas, as everyone's said, thanks for starting it and taking the time to keep the index updated.
I had thought about PMing you a while back about moving a version to a website as a database with a much more appropriate user interface, but since we all own our respective images it would be a huge headache. As it sits it is just fine, IMO, and I'll keep clicking in as long as it keeps going (even for the minimum focused close-ups and completely OoF frames )



Dec 07, 2009 at 07:38 PM
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Makten - I'm liking that shot. Perhaps because Basil is my favourite herb... i dunno. but that pic is fantastic
*pondering saving it to desktop for wallpaper*

And Twok - Some weird highlights in that shot. How did that work?



Dec 08, 2009 at 10:13 AM
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p.108 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jos Tesseract wrote:
Makten - I'm liking that shot. Perhaps because Basil is my favourite herb... i dunno. but that pic is fantastic
*pondering saving it to desktop for wallpaper*

Thanks! I'm having an experiment trying to keep the little fellow alive in my kitchen for as long as possible. It has only been a couple of days yet.

The Nokton is lovely in my opinion. I had to recalibrate the rangefinder myself to make the lens usable wide open, since the focus shift is so severe that they obviously calibrated the lens for accurate focus at f/2.8. But using f/2.8 in the middle of the winter in Sweden is hardly even possible.



Dec 08, 2009 at 10:24 AM
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Jos Tesseract wrote:
And Twok - Some weird highlights in that shot. How did that work?

Sorry I'm not following.



Dec 08, 2009 at 04:28 PM
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p.108 #12 · "Admirable" blur samples


TWoK - just to the upper left of the ball thing. The bokeh has a doubled effect or something there.


Dec 08, 2009 at 08:37 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure what's up with that.


Dec 08, 2009 at 08:45 PM
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p.108 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples


some old tests from my archives. full shot on left, 100% crop on the right. about 85cm from subject.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2184/3527694568_e83ac49c7c_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/3527712300_b5abecaa73_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2383/3527743898_dfbd9a00da_o.jpg



Dec 09, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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p.108 #15 · "Admirable" blur samples


More rokkor love. I like the blur in this one.

Shot wide open at 550 iso
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2801/4170007576_153291fdf8_b.jpg



Dec 09, 2009 at 02:37 PM
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p.108 #16 · "Admirable" blur samples


Which Rokkor is that? It is super sharp!


Dec 09, 2009 at 04:10 PM
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p.108 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples


58mm 1.2 of course. Sharp when you hit the focus, and when you do not it lets you know it.


Dec 09, 2009 at 04:53 PM
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5DM2 + Leica 80 Lux at f/1.4, ISO 6400, 1/30 s

http://psquared.smugmug.com/Weddings/Theresa-and-Dan-Wedding/IMG5012/719476273_M4b6d-XL.jpg



Dec 10, 2009 at 02:35 PM
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p.108 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples


Love it PSquared63...

The edginess of the rings is actually beneficial here and the general rendering is quite pleasant.

Catholic wedding? ;-)



Dec 10, 2009 at 03:27 PM
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p.108 #20 · "Admirable" blur samples


Thanks, Daniel.

Yes on the Catholic wedding. Actually, the rehearsal dinner before the wedding to be exact.



Dec 10, 2009 at 04:14 PM
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