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Yakim Peled
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p.106 #1 · "Admirable" blur samples


cogitech wrote:
Not unique at all. It is called "the cats eye effect" and it is quite common.

http://toothwalker.org/optics/vignetting.html


Well, I must admit that I owned and used dozens of lenses and never witnessed it.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Nov 29, 2009 at 03:46 AM
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p.106 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jonas B wrote:
The Zuiko OM90/2 Macro does the same:
http://w1.316.comhem.se/~u31619735/temp/f899_zuiko_90_m_distant_lamps_f2.jpg
http://w1.316.comhem.se/~u31619735/temp/f899_left_corner_50crop.jpg

And the lens is for sale, please feel free to redirect that offfer.

/Jonas


I would, if only I had the same financial capabilities of the Godfather.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Nov 29, 2009 at 03:50 AM
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p.106 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples


50mm f1.4 Rokkor on 5D wide open
-Jim

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2637/4145607914_7f1b2845fc_b.jpg



Nov 29, 2009 at 07:51 PM
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p.106 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples


Gee Jim, great focusing job considering how fast you downed that beer.


Nov 29, 2009 at 08:12 PM
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p.106 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples


I missed the beer in the picture. Where is it?


Nov 29, 2009 at 08:16 PM
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p.106 #6 · "Admirable" blur samples


Leon Noel wrote:
@Cgiff: nice 3d-ness in your 1st flower shot, but there's imperfection spots in circular highlights in both shots, perhaps there's something in the elements themselves (air bubbles, coupling seperation) ?

Thanks, yeah I didn't notice that at first but now I'm a bit curious! I'm going to finish the conversion and shoot with it more (as much as I love it wide open, being able to stop down will be nice...). In many shots the circular highlights are completely blown out and those "bubbles" aren't visible, but it is funky.

Yakim Peled wrote:
Ellipsoid bokeh? Very unique. If I were in Nikon I'd make you an offer you would not refuse.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


hah, thanks, I think I'm really going to like the lens. It's going to be a tough call picking between this and the Samyang 85/1.4 though, which is kind of hilarious considering the difference in price and prestige (Zuiko vs... Samyang??). Might just have to keep both.



Nov 30, 2009 at 10:06 AM
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Yakim Peled wrote:
Ellipsoid bokeh? Very unique. If I were in Nikon I'd make you an offer you would not refuse.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

that flower shot is nothing short of amazing...I would have thought it as Zeiss-3D-effect had you not mentioned. My Precious.



Dec 01, 2009 at 10:26 AM
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Nikon 180mm f/2.8 AI-s ED on a Rebel XT (effective focal length of 288mm). All the bright points of light are traffic lights and crosswalk signals.

http://kakomu.com/images/nikon_180_2.8.jpg

Wide open at f/2.8
ISO 1600
1/1000 sec.



Dec 01, 2009 at 10:53 AM
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p.106 #9 · "Admirable" blur samples


cogitech wrote:
This phenomenon is a direct result of the mirror box entry size being smaller than the size of the rear element, so it happens much more on cameras with a smaller mirror box (crop cams).


It can also be due to a faster shutter than the shot should have. I've had a few shots where I was shooting with a faster shutter and large aperture, and i had weird clipping happening in the bokeh spots. (remember guys - i shoot a crop body)

A much more severe cropping effect happens when shooting at faster than 1/160th when using GI/Cactus V2S'.



Dec 01, 2009 at 11:51 AM
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Jos Tesseract wrote:
It can also be due to a faster shutter than the shot should have. I've had a few shots where I was shooting with a faster shutter and large aperture, and i had weird clipping happening in the bokeh spots. (remember guys - i shoot a crop body)

A much more severe cropping effect happens when shooting at faster than 1/160th when using GI/Cactus V2S'.



The phenomenon you are getting when shooting with flash is an entirely different thing.
It has to do with the duration of the flash pulse related to the travelling slit opening between shutter blades (which gets smaller as the shutter speed increases).

You will notice that only areas which are subject to light from the flash will be affected - the normal ambient exposure will remain even across the frame.

I could explain it better but im in the middle of replacing windows on my house



Dec 01, 2009 at 07:00 PM
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Empire wrote:
The phenomenon you are getting when shooting with flash is an entirely different thing.
It has to do with the duration of the flash pulse related to the travelling slit opening between shutter blades (which gets smaller as the shutter speed increases).

You will notice that only areas which are subject to light from the flash will be affected - the normal ambient exposure will remain even across the frame.

I could explain it better but im in the middle of replacing windows on my house


The flash blackout phenomenon has to do with the maximum speed the shutter curtains can travel. The X-sync speed is the fastest shutter speed where the entire frame is exposed at the same time. Anything faster than the X-sync will have one or both curtains in front of the frame.



Dec 01, 2009 at 07:32 PM
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p.106 #12 · "Admirable" blur samples


Your 24-105/4L IS shot pretty much confirms my own observations with this lens. The bokeh is just very slightly ring-like. The edges are noticeably brighter than the center. It's actually visible in a lot of my blurred backgrounds with this lens, whereas when I shoot with my 100/2.8L macro IS, I never have this effect. In fact, I don't see it with any of my other lenses--just this one.

Not saying I dislike it--it's just a different look.

But your comments make me want to investigate this phenomenon more closely--I want to see whether the blur disks look different depending on whether the plane of focus is in front or behind the highlight.

Check out one of my shots with the 300/4L IS:

http://petertwang.deviantart.com/art/consider-a-spherical-bird-144887840



Dec 02, 2009 at 05:01 PM
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p.106 #13 · "Admirable" blur samples


M645 + Sekkor 80/1.9 + Ektar 100
Bottom of the scan got cut off. In theory this lens should behave a lot like a 50/1.2 on 35mm, but in practice it's just so much different.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2539/4151081007_01e5d0db93_o.jpg



Dec 03, 2009 at 11:29 AM
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p.106 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples


Cross post, but an example of the Samyang 85/1.4's rendering @ f/2.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s188/fat_mat_labatt/FM%20Forum/_MG_0341.jpg



Dec 03, 2009 at 10:09 PM
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p.106 #15 · "Admirable" blur samples


Zeiss Sonnar 180 T* @ 2.8
-Jim

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2637/4158325571_8e947e90cc_b.jpg



Dec 04, 2009 at 06:45 PM
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p.106 #16 · "Admirable" blur samples


May as well cross post this one:

M9, CV 50/1.1 nokton at f/1.1
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/10297652-lg.jpg



Dec 05, 2009 at 12:50 AM
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p.106 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples


(this used to be a part of the index)

Edited on Feb 18, 2010 at 04:09 AM · View previous versions



Dec 05, 2009 at 01:35 PM
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p.106 #18 · "Admirable" blur samples


(this used to be a part of the index)

Edited on Feb 18, 2010 at 04:08 AM · View previous versions



Dec 05, 2009 at 01:36 PM
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p.106 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples


(this used to be a part of the index)

Edited on Feb 18, 2010 at 04:08 AM · View previous versions



Dec 05, 2009 at 01:36 PM
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p.106 #20 · "Admirable" blur samples


...and a late Thank you to our new poster sebboh (hobbes?) for the great nice and descriptive submissions since the last index.

And, everybody, please remember to hold back on the close-ups, OK?!

Cheers,

/Jonas



Dec 05, 2009 at 01:40 PM
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