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p.1 #1 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


another first for me.......the e-session. this is another favor to friends. i am shooting their wedding this weekend. they are a lot more enjoyable than my last wedding so i have a lot higher hopes. i am pleased with this pictures; however, i have tons of work with my FC. i would love feedback. thanks for looking. all can be seen here: http://sabaphoto.com/gallery/millard/


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Jun 12, 2008 at 09:39 PM
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p.1 #2 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


#1 is cute.
as for the rest-try and keep your ambient and fill within two stops of each other. Depending on what kind of flash you use, your duration will be fast enough to freeze action, allow for slower shutter speeds, and get in a little more ambient. They look comfortable together. thats awesome.

Edited on Jun 12, 2008 at 09:55 PM



Jun 12, 2008 at 09:54 PM
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p.1 #3 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


Wow, she looks like she could be his daughter! I like #1 / #2, and agree with the others that the flash balance in the others is way off.


Jun 12, 2008 at 11:32 PM
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p.1 #4 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


1. The concept of this one is hysterical. Attention to details is what will set great portraits apart from no-so-great ones. In this shot, her feet should have been completely in the frame. Pulling out further would have not only saved that amputation, but also created a better "scene", I think. It's nice in garden areas when you can get a feel for the garden and not just the people in it. A little more ambient light would have cut down on the "flashy-ness", too.

2. This sepia is a little to strong for my tastes. And for me, the greens are too pretty to lose. Images full of color and texture like this one can often look better if kept in color. Of course, there are exceptions.

3. I think the background of this one is distracting. The buildings come off as ugly and in the way, rather than adding to the scene.

4. I like this one... though I could do without the slight wide angle warp.

5. This one's cute... but too tightly cropped. Watch that shoe... and give him a tad more room above his head. In a print, the lab would come close to cutting it off... and even if they didn't, the frame they put the image in would.

6. I think this is your strongest from the session. I really like it. There's enough ambient to see the flowers and not feel like the flash is over-powering them.

7. This one seems more like a snapshot that happened to have some blue sky in there.



Jun 13, 2008 at 12:50 AM
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p.1 #5 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


kesava wrote:
#1 is cute.
as for the rest-try and keep your ambient and fill within two stops of each other. Depending on what kind of flash you use, your duration will be fast enough to freeze action, allow for slower shutter speeds, and get in a little more ambient. They look comfortable together. thats awesome.


thanks for your input. i was trying to go for a more dramatic look, but i obviously over did it.



Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08 AM
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p.1 #6 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


sboerup wrote:
Wow, she looks like she could be his daughter! I like #1 / #2, and agree with the others that the flash balance in the others is way off.


thanks. there isn't as big of an age difference as it looks. maybe 8-10 years. anyway, thanks for your feedback.



Jun 13, 2008 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #7 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


unblinkable wrote:
1. The concept of this one is hysterical. Attention to details is what will set great portraits apart from no-so-great ones. In this shot, her feet should have been completely in the frame. Pulling out further would have not only saved that amputation, but also created a better "scene", I think. It's nice in garden areas when you can get a feel for the garden and not just the people in it. A little more ambient light would have cut down on the "flashy-ness", too.

2. This sepia is a little to strong for my tastes. And for me, the greens
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thank you very much for your detailed input mrs mansfield

i know not to cut the feet off, but i just need to get more comfortable in these situations. when i am shooting music, all i have to worry about is pushing the shutter. i am comfortable with everything else that i can focus on the frame and not worry about settings. here, not so much, which is why i fumbled those. i also went with sepia because i have three frames that are all from that same bench, so i wanted to give variety. and i am known to go overboard with the contrast.
and with the black background and buildings i was trying to make sure i got the sky exposed correctly but obviously over did it.
and the warp is distracting. i might have to retire that lens (17-35 2.8L) it was fine on my crop body, but with the full frame i see why it is two versions old.

but thanks again for your input; you have given me lots of constructive criticism.



Jun 13, 2008 at 09:22 AM
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p.1 #8 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


why wide angle only ? a couple of head shoulder, 3/4 with blur backgroud would have been nice. and why not using the sunset light instead of mainly flash ?


Jun 13, 2008 at 10:10 AM
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p.1 #9 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


tdong wrote:
why wide angle only ? a couple of head shoulder, 3/4 with blur backgroud would have been nice. and why not using the sunset light instead of mainly flash ?


good questions. wide angle mostly because my 70-200 was at repair and 28-75 range is a tamron that i have been hesitant to even put on the new 5d. there are some with the 501.4. and i obviously fumbled the flash ratio.



Jun 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #10 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


Great shots......did you get a shot of her kissing the metal frog,?
then have the guy show up in the photo...

they look very good I dont shot a lot of E photography and dont have a lot of clients that want them but I need to sell more of my ideas to them before the wedding.....that I do shoot..

Joe




Jun 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM
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p.1 #11 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


Michael Saba wrote:
i know not to cut the feet off, but i just need to get more comfortable in these situations. when i am shooting music, all i have to worry about is pushing the shutter. i am comfortable with everything else that i can focus on the frame and not worry about settings. here, not so much, which is why i fumbled those.


I'm with ya there... and weddings are even faster paced than photo shoots... I can't tell you how many times I've lost composition simply because I was trying to reconfigure the stupid settings. I was so grateful that the 5D wasn't much different in "feel" from the 20D we started with... that first wedding after the initial purchase was tense as I made sure that everything was correct and I wasn't just flying through without thinking "new camera... new camera".

And? You can call me Melanie.



Jun 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #12 · jessica and bobby: e session @ botanical garden


tamron 28 75 is one of the best lens for wedding. my assistant is still using it for the entire wedding. 70 200 is just way too heavy. Even though I am using the nikon 17-55 right now I just like the images from the tamron better. The wide end of the tamron doesn't show much distortion like the 17-55 at the wide end and the long end at 75 for portrait just beat the heck out of my 55mm. (this is my opinion only but I am pretty sure other will agree that at 75mm it just look better than at 55mm)

Usually I shoot 17-55 and 70-200 in the morning. at reception I put the 70-200 away and use either the 85 or the 105. too much weight for the whole day

about flash what ratio are you talking about ? I am pretty sure you are using TTL right ? it is very easy to control once you master it with all the metering mode. I see that you use something similar to Chuck Garner diffusor I am using one too with some modification for feather the light

Edited on Jun 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM



Jun 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM





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