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p.2 #1 · 18s for us little people?

Best you can get at this FOV is probably a Schneider 24mm Apo-Digitar on a medium format digital back.

Samples:
http://tinyurl.com/4bd7d8
http://tinyurl.com/53suca

May 25, 2008 at 04:55 PM

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Edited on May 25, 2008 at 05:11 PM

May 25, 2008 at 05:11 PM

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p.2 #3 · 18s for us little people?

Here's the 15mm VC on M8.

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May 26, 2008 at 03:53 AM

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p.2 #4 · 18s for us little people?

the 100% crop in the corner looks pretty darn good!

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Edited on May 26, 2008 at 04:04 AM

May 26, 2008 at 03:56 AM

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p.2 #5 · 18s for us little people?

foto-z wrote:
Best you can get at this FOV is probably a Schneider 24mm Apo-Digitar on a medium format digital back.

Samples:
http://tinyurl.com/4bd7d8
http://tinyurl.com/53suca

Is the first one an electron generator or the inside of a power plant.

That second shot sure has some resolution to it - I can see people who make a living with photography actually needing such a fine camera/lens. But for most 35mm format users... is that high a resolution with that nice a setup really needed ?

May 26, 2008 at 05:04 AM

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p.2 #6 · 18s for us little people?

That would be the Nikon 14-24G. I must have I got it confused with the Sigma 12-24

Kit Laughlin wrote:
Paul, you mention the Nikon 12–24 G, and you say that it is sharp wide open at ƒ2.8. Which lens are you referring to, exactly?

Googling, I got this hit, on DPReview:

Pre-PMA 2003, 15:00 TOKYO: Nikon has today confirmed the details of their first digital only lens, the Nikkor AF-S DX 12 - 24 mm F4.0

Are you referring to this lens, or the 14–24/2.8 that I have—which definitely is sharp wide open? Did I miss something?

I tested the 12–24/4 Nikkor against the Tokina 12–24 in DX-sensor-only days, and the latter blew it away, frankly. Probably a copy variation problem (poor Nikkor; great Tokina), but I was surprised at the difference. Cheers, KL

May 26, 2008 at 06:01 AM

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p.2 #7 · 18s for us little people?

The fact that the Zuiko 18/3.5 has such low distortion is something that I forgot to mention. It was low enough I never corrected for it in post processing. It's the only SWA that's performs so well for distortion.

Simon Kennedy wrote:
Personally I am not sure about that Tamron lens based on these examples. I don't normally get involved in testing and so on, but here is a few crops from a shot from my Zuiko 18mm. It looks to me like it is substantially sharper than the tamron, with much lower distortion. But then it costs much more so I suppose you would expect that. Perhaps I am missing something here...

May 26, 2008 at 06:13 AM

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p.2 #8 · 18s for us little people?

Thanks Paul; you are usually so precise in what you write that I didn't seriously consider a typo—I assumed a lens I didn't know, but wanted to! And the 14–28/2.8 IS a great lens. In informal consideration of images taken with both lenses, I feel it compares favourably with the now-fabled Distagon 21, and I had one of those for quite a while—except the 14–24 zooms and does not have the 'moustache' distortion (which never troubled me, actually).

Cheers, KL

May 26, 2008 at 10:18 PM

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p.2 #9 · 18s for us little people?

pdmphoto wrote:
I have the Nikon 12-24G lens, which does not *require* one of Mark's G adapter.

I didn't know that. Please share.

FM member Mike Hatam is another expert on the Oly 18. It really is a nice little lens. Packs small, and sharp. He may even have some.

Edited on May 26, 2008 at 10:37 PM

May 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM

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p.2 #10 · 18s for us little people?

Sorry for dragging this thread back from the dead, but does anyone have any information on the Sigma 18mm f3.5? I was going through the information at http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~loui/lenses and saw 2 references to it. One reference ranked it above the Tamron 17/3.5, which piqued my curiosity.

Dec 03, 2008 at 08:01 AM

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p.2 #11 · 18s for us little people?

pascal03 wrote:
foto-z wrote:
Best you can get at this FOV is probably a Schneider 24mm Apo-Digitar on a medium format digital back.

Samples:
http://tinyurl.com/4bd7d8
http://tinyurl.com/53suca

Is the first one an electron generator or the inside of a power plant.

That second shot sure has some resolution to it - I can see people who make a living with photography actually needing such a fine camera/lens. But for most 35mm format users... is that high a resolution with that nice a setup really needed ?

First one is the large hadron collider at CERN in Geneva.

Dec 03, 2008 at 10:00 AM

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p.2 #12 · 18s for us little people?

Other 18s worth considering:

Minolta Rokkor 17/f4 - probably adaptable to Canon.

The Distagon 18/4 has good sharpness, better than the others, but rather low contrast according to the tests.

Oly 18 has better contrast, as does Pentax, both are slightly lower than Distagon for sharpness though not far off.

Nikon 18/3.5 is in the hunt too.

Another decent (though probably not in the same league) option for cheap $ is the Vivitar/Tokina 17/3.5, there were a couple versions of that.

I have tests from most of these posted here:

http://www.edsawyer.com/lenstests/

Those that aren't up yet (Pentax, Distagon, Rokkor) will be up later today probably.

I wish I could find an Oly 18 for a reasonable price, they all seem to be quite expensive lately. Finding a Pentax 18 would be nice too.

-Ed

Dec 03, 2008 at 02:17 PM

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