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p.1 #1 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


So the AcuteB battery isn't exactly long-winded in # of pops, but its adequate for most of my uses. I'd still like to get a 2nd battery, but at $250 its a little much.

I can get the actual battery at a local electronics store for $30, but then I take the 4 screws off and exchange the battery. Is the $200 cassette really worth the hassle? It took me about 5 minutes to remove the screws, replace the battery, and screw it back on. I don't mind doing this in the field if necessary, but does anyone else do it?

Edited by sboerup on May 12, 2008 at 12:58 PM GMT

Edited on May 12, 2008 at 02:58 PM



May 07, 2008 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #2 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Maybe some strobist goon can make a homemade acuteb battery cassette!


May 07, 2008 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #3 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


I was looking at it, and the area where the battery connects to the pack, could you just put some alligator clips on that, and connect it to a battery?

I took apart the Acute battery cassette, very very simple array of cords. Interesting. Anyone else thought of this?



May 07, 2008 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #4 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Would you mind posting a picture of the naked cassette/sled? It may be possible to fabricate something very easily. I'm a DIY'er


May 07, 2008 at 11:29 PM
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p.1 #5 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Jonathan H wrote:
I'm a DIY'er


Jonathan,

I gotta admit I like that better than "strobist goon".

Now if I could just pronounce it


Edited on May 07, 2008 at 11:53 PM



May 07, 2008 at 11:52 PM
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p.1 #6 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


It's not the simplest thing (but I don't foresee a usable DIY version), but after looking at the internal prongs, I would bet that connecting a 12v 12ah battery would be a cinch with some alligator clips. At least the opportunity is there.

Anyway, I ordered 2 12v 5ah (the standard AcuteB battery size and rating) for $15 each, a bargain.



http://www.spencerboerup.com/images/FM%20samples/acuteb/IMG_5185.jpg

http://www.spencerboerup.com/images/FM%20samples/acuteb/IMG_5189.jpg

http://www.spencerboerup.com/images/FM%20samples/acuteb/IMG_5191.jpg

http://www.spencerboerup.com/images/FM%20samples/acuteb/IMG_5193.jpg


Edited on May 02, 2009 at 04:10 PM · View previous versions



May 08, 2008 at 01:41 AM
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p.1 #7 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


jeez. With the money spent on the b600 system, its ridiculous that you have to pay an additional couple hundred bucks for a 5AH battery.

eh.



May 08, 2008 at 11:42 PM
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p.1 #8 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


You know, I think I could turn a nice tidy profit making the sleds and selling them with batteries. If I bought 20 batteries I could probably get them for $10 each

Hmmm.....

Oh, and Carmen... "dee-eye-why-errr"

Edited on May 09, 2008 at 12:16 AM



May 09, 2008 at 12:16 AM
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p.1 #9 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Okay, just got back from Walmart where I picked up some battery clips. The wires are the same gauge as seen in the cassette above.

Powers on and fires just fine, but . . . I had a fresh battery charged, green light. Plugged the battery in via the alligator clips (30" wire) and it gave me a yellow light. Fired of a couple of lower power pops, red light. Fired off a full power, turns off, then turns back on. Granted the alligator clips don't route through the 40a fuse like the battery cassette, they appear to be identical. Anyone know why this is? Once I plugged the battery back in via the proper way (with cassette) it showed a full charge.

I'm really liking the idea of using a 12v 15ah battery when needed, that would yield a near 700-800 pops. This just doesn't make sense. What is making the current drop on this? From what I can tell, there is no circuitry in this at all.

Edited on May 09, 2008 at 02:09 AM



May 09, 2008 at 01:43 AM
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p.1 #10 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Spoke with an electrical engineer buddy of mine, looks like it might just be the crappy alligator clips. The slots receptacles are pretty large, so the surface area of the clips just might not be enough.

I'll jimmy something up and post an update.

Edited on May 09, 2008 at 02:16 AM



May 09, 2008 at 02:16 AM
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p.1 #11 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


thanks for the mission, looking forward to more results.


May 09, 2008 at 12:01 PM
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p.1 #12 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


so wait, who's gonna make me a few cassetts I'll give half of the profoto price...


May 09, 2008 at 12:08 PM
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p.1 #13 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


UPDATE: Got the right electrical connectors and new cable, seems to be working just as it were plugged into the pack. You can easily put the whole pack into a small back, along with a much larger battery now. Very easy. Or, just keep 2 5ah batteries around. With the wiring coming out of the bag, you could put the batteries in individual pouches, attached to the bottom of the stand to add some weight to it. I'm liking this idea.

http://www.spencerboerup.com/images/FM%20samples/acuteb/IMG_5863.jpg

http://www.spencerboerup.com/images/FM%20samples/acuteb/IMG_5862.jpg


Essentially, you are just making the cord longer now. Those are only 18" cords on it too.

Edited on May 12, 2008 at 02:58 PM



May 12, 2008 at 02:57 PM
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p.1 #14 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


awesome, going to do this today I think.
What will a larger battery do for you? and when you say 'larger' in what way?



May 12, 2008 at 03:37 PM
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p.1 #15 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Larger battery = more pops

12v is the standard for lead acid batteries, you dont want to change the voltage rating. the "aH" rating is how long its going to last. The PCB Vagabond is a 20ah battery, which lasts a LONG time. So, the 5aH battery of the AcuteB will give you around 250 full power pops. A 10ah should theoretically give you near double. 15aH even more, but the weight doubles too



May 12, 2008 at 03:57 PM
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p.1 #16 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Just got that battery from batteries plus tonight, $24, some heavy guage wire.....I knew in theory the $249 for the cassette was ridiculous, but now after seeing what you are paying for, its insane. I have always been ok with profoto prices, but that cassette is wicked robbery.

Hopefully someone can jimmyrig a cassette here and sell em, i will buy a few




May 12, 2008 at 09:08 PM
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p.1 #17 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


I'm still not quite sure if the cable thing is delivering the full current or not. I don't see why it wouldn't?

Also: replacementUPSbattery.com has the Werker 12v/5aH batteries for $16.95.
http://www.replacementupsbattery.com/Product_pages/wka12-5f.html

Ordered mine last Wednesday and they shipped the same day.

Edited on May 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM



May 12, 2008 at 10:27 PM
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p.1 #18 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


You need to engineer some safety into this setup.

Reverse polarity protection.
Fuse close to battery positive terminal.
Connections soldered not crimped.
Mechanical connection at both ends.
More flexible wire with loom protecting it from abrasion.

You will have no problem charging 5AH batteries. What is your charging strategy for larger batteries?

I think you are on the right track but keep safety in mind. 12V batteries can very quickly become bombs spewing lead shrapnel and sulfuric acid.

Witek.



May 13, 2008 at 08:20 AM
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p.1 #19 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


witek wrote:
You need to engineer some safety into this setup.

Reverse polarity protection.
Fuse close to battery positive terminal.
Connections soldered not crimped.
Mechanical connection at both ends.
More flexible wire with loom protecting it from abrasion.

You will have no problem charging 5AH batteries. What is your charging strategy for larger batteries?

I think you are on the right track but keep safety in mind. 12V batteries can very quickly become bombs spewing lead shrapnel and sulfuric acid.

Witek.


But I am all good buying the same batt (the $24 one) to replace the profoto one right?
(Yes, I am electronically stupid).




May 13, 2008 at 11:35 AM
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p.1 #20 · UPDATE: AcuteB Battery Cassette


Profoto most likely buys the same exact battery and rebadges it. A 12v battery is a 12v battery.


May 13, 2008 at 08:50 PM
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