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 p.2 #17 · #1 Change/Improvement for 5DII: The Poll | |
M Vers wrote:
Point is it took 43 responses in the initial thread before it was mentioned...and that was after you had mentioned it. I did not include it because of this. Hmmm...43 replies and yet not one person had mentioned it, must be extremely important.
Actually, that's not the point...
The real point is that it depends on how you create and structure your poll. If you give people options, then most will select from those available, and paint between the lines. Very few will take the time to add, or really think, what is important. Please see the semi-poorly constructed poll below....
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/625785/0#5536353
There is no reason for me to believe that you either saw, read, or cared about the poll above. It doesn't change things though, and a 100% VF is more important than you think. It will have a far greater affect on the final IQ than many (most?) of the poll options you provided, but people do what you tell them to do and will respond accordingly. It’s just human nature unless their @ss is on the line for something, and a fun camera poll is not life threatening. At least I hope not! 
I am sorry that you feel that the options provided were "limited" but frankly I don't feel thats the case at all, and if your outlook remains, please feel free to divulge further options that I (and countless others) have so ignorantly overlooked. I missed brighter VF, so that translates to an ineffectual poll? A brighter VF is a great thing...but surely there are more important upgrades to be had first and foremost. In the end I guess I owe you an apology for neglecting this feature...I hope you can forgive me. Just goes to show-- you can't always please everyone.
No, you can’t please every one, or even anyone sometimes.
N.B. Actually, I didn't say "brighter" VF so that's my fault. I simply said “better” without getting specific. The size of the VF is paramount. A 100% VF is even slightly more important than a brighter VF, but that's debatable too and will depend on who you ask. It does affect every picture you take, every time, every day, though…
Once you recognize that your poll, and most polls here (mine included), present a "limited" perspective, then you will know that until people can comment freely and are forced to either think or qualify their experience level, you know you may not get the truth.
When, or until, you begin using "professional" (I dislike using that designation) level gear, you may not notice the VF difference. The 5d's VF is better than the cameras you have owned or currently own, but it's a far cry from great. I've owned 4 5d bodies, right along 1 with series cameras, and there's a big difference.
The main takeaway here is that if people know about, and recognize what is truly important on a camera (any camera) we will start to get better gear because people will ask for the important things. They’ll know what will help them and what a mfg is simply throwing in as opposed to a real upgrade (14-bit is a given, period). As an example, is weather sealing really important to the shooters here, or do they just cry out for it because they think that’s what they need since the 1 series cameras have it? It (sealing) scored a low mark in your poll, but it was just behind FPS which is more important for many. It would be interesting for us to know why people really need it other than for the 1% of the time they get caught in a sprinkle and have to dash to the car. If you could choose between weather sealing which is expensive to add, not used much unless you’re a PJ, or a 100% VF, used every time you take a picture and will directly affect your composition, which would you choose?
Food for thought... Every politician, company, radio station, etc. that runs a poll can get almost any "answer" or result they want. It's all in how you structure the poll.
I can't do any better than the words below....
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics...
- Mark Twain
Edited on Apr 06, 2008 at 12:19 PM
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- And, you'd give up about a stop of low-light AF capability over the present 5D system (based on my own observation when I owned both bodies). 
More seriously though, I do believe Canon will add 1-Series (or at least close to) features to the updated 5D, but (once again depending on MSRP) I also believe they will neglect to add a certain feature(s) which will differentiate it between a 1-Series body...what that will be is unknown but if I had to guess I'd think they'd skimp a bit on MP's, BQ (no weather sealing) and AF (which IMO will be upgraded in one way, shape or form). A perfect example of this can be seen when comparing the recent 450D to the 40D. The 450D is now larger (in comparison to the 400D), shares many 40D features (live view w/ 3in screen, digic III, dust removal etc etc), and most importantly has an upgraded AF system and high(er) ISO performance, BUT Canon being the company they are, went and switched the media type to SD, which we all know is a consumer based media type...surely nothing professionals are highly interested in (if at all). Is SD a negative feature? To the average consumer, no...it's much cheaper than CF, so thats good, right? I can't speak for others but I can say that it is a turn off for me, along with physical size+ergonomics, BQ and a few other small quirks... enough so to make a different choice when it comes to picking up a back-up body. And so I spend more to get more. I believe the same deal can be applied to the 5D successor vs. a 1-Series body. What the deciding factors will be is obviously unknown...but there is a very good chance you will see the 5DII as a mini 1DsMKIII...much like you see the 450D as a mini 40D. OTOH I could be completely wrong 
