Sorry I realise I may have misinterpreted your post, and taken it as a flame at newbies wanting pros help and not at pros or not helping newbies. I am still not sure I understand the context of post.
Just re-read the starter and it wasn't bad. Sorry about the title.
I entered my post with this "Lets get together to understand that time behind the camera" - 2 years playing vs 20 years doing the job? I don't mind pissing off the newbies-
Your photography is quite wonderful after having spend many minutes looking at your images. I have to wonder how it is that someone with such a keen eye for the world around them can so easily piss upon those marching up the ladder trying to claw their way to the rung on which you now find yourself perched.
It seems very sad to me that you could simply treat other human beings with such distain.
I hope you slept off whatever bit you and are feeling more friendly and kind this day.
wow 1m heads and only 282 posts since 2005, thanks for all the contributions to the forum there Bob! I would think that PART of being professional is sharing with those who have similar interests.
finster1018 wrote:
wow 1m heads and only 282 posts since 2005, thanks for all the contributions to the forum there Bob! I would think that PART of being professional is sharing with those who have similar interests.
Well - I just multiplied 1,000,000 by say $10 - and got such a big figure maybe he is too busy spending his money
I can't recall ever seeing your work, but just the fact you are still in the photography business after 28 years probably speaks more to your skills as a businessman and entrepreneurial zeal to be your own boss than as a photographer. Both are no doubt excellent.
But time spent behind the plow does not make one a better farmer. What makes a person a better farmer is understanding what plants need to grow and how to run a farm as a business. There are many different ways to do that, some take longer than others.
When I was starting out I worked for less than two years for one of the best in the business, both photographically and business-wise. I learned more in that short span than I ever would have walking in the furrow of my own trial and error. I'd venture to say that after 18 months I'd probably learned more than someone self-taught and trying to figure out the photography and how to run business part might learn in 20 years on their own. When you work for someone who has already made all the mistakes the learning curve is faster. The most valuable lesson I learned was that I didn't have any burning desire to run my own business. It was clear that even at the top of the heap the hours sucked and the remuneration while comfortable wasn't making my boss wealthy. So I got out of the business early. I stopped taking photos for hire, but worked in related fields of the graphic arts. I never stopped learning how the photographic process works on a technical and perceptual level.
Time spent behind the plow does not make one a better farmer, it just gives them a red neck.
Edited by cgardner on Apr 03, 2008 at 10:56 PM GMT
bobmiller wrote:
I must go to bed now (AZ Time)because I need to be at the job at 6am, to set up and shoot 200 graduates in cap & gown. Such is a life of a pro.
WOW! If that's the "big time", you can keep it. That sounds incredibly boring to me.
We're glad you're so secure in your abilities as a professional photographer, but your communications style leaves just a bit to be desired. I'd bet that due to both the inflection and tone of your post, you lost most anyone you might have been able to help in your first post.
Yikes! Where did all the drama in this forum come from.
I actually would suggest a separation of the forum between pro and amateur (unless it already exists)?
So that we can avoid pissed off photographers and embarrassed newbies...
