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sbeme Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #1 · Anhinga General C and C appreciated. Also, comments about PS work. This image was "rescued" from under-exposure, inadvertently set by me. Among other things, I struggled to reduce noise, without a noise reduction plug-in. Feel free to play, repost. Thx. Scott G Edited on Mar 17, 2008 at 06:25 PM Mar 17, 2008 at 06:24 PM

Bob Jarman Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #2 · Anhinga Scott, Is the RAW version available? Bob Mar 17, 2008 at 06:49 PM

sbeme Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #3 · Anhinga Yeah, I'll e-mail you. I'd appreciate your help. Scott Mar 17, 2008 at 06:59 PM

Bob Jarman Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #4 · Anhinga Scott, Here's a quick hack - CS3, exposure ~ +2.75 in ACR NR through NeatImage, Curves, TLR Digital Velvia Action Smart Objects - sharpen & selective blur for BG 'bout out of time for tonight - thought I noticed a color shift when saving to jpg - eyes aren't what the used to be but I think CS3 is a POC for jpg conversions anyway - neever get what I saw (probably my doing) regards, Bob Mar 18, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Scott Stoness Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #5 · Anhinga NIce for eyes, background is good. Birds are hard to get because they don't let you get close. So good job. I think this would be improved with more space to the right for him to look into. Clone some more? And maybe a bit off the top. Mar 18, 2008 at 01:49 AM

Cathy Yount Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #6 · Anhinga I don't know...I kind of like the original PP better. The other is a little too orange for me, but I DO like the difference in contrast that the edit made. Seems noise reduction was more successful in the first version. Great capture! Edited on Mar 18, 2008 at 03:33 PM Mar 18, 2008 at 03:32 PM

Bob Jarman Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #7 · Anhinga Yes, the edit is perhaps a bit hot - probably a result of the Velvia action. And on this monitor, which is a poor basis for judgment, there is way too much orange. Bob Mar 18, 2008 at 04:14 PM

sbeme Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #8 · Anhinga Bob, Thank for the time and effort. I love the sharpness, and think I need to bump it on my image. I dont have CS2 or 3, so I'll work more with CS and LR. A bit brigther than mine; I think I prefer yours. Colors are, however, off a bit. Did you convert to sRGB? Curious what others think of the variations, and maybe some other re-works as well.... Scott G Mar 18, 2008 at 06:34 PM

sbeme Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #9 · Anhinga Cathy, thanks. I worked hard on the noise reduction, selection background, applying gaussian blur, healing a bit of the color variation. It's weird, and maybe others know more about this: On high ISO or heavily "recovered" issues, there are vertical bands of noise. It reminds me of the old Etch-a-Sketch drawing tool. If anyone recalls it. Once you cover the enter surface with etching, you see thru to the workings below. Its as if the sensor defects show directly. Mar 18, 2008 at 06:37 PM

srapson Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #10 · Anhinga I agree with those above, the color and noise reduction in your original are preferable. The blur that you ran is near enough to an OOF blur that I would have just assumed a long lens if you hadn't said anything. That said I do like the sharpness of Bob's version, the texture it brings to the neck is especially nice. Mar 18, 2008 at 09:39 PM

sbeme Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #11 · Anhinga Thanks, srapson. Actually it was taken with a long lens; 100-400IS @f 4.5 with trees far in the background. The original does look blurred. I attempted to reduce noise further by adding additional blur to the background, smoothing out some uneven-ness in the color (specks of red, esp). Mar 19, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Bob Jarman Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #12 · Anhinga Scott, I promised to have another go at it - maybe i got the colors right this time? Thanks for letting me work with it. regards, Bob Edited on Mar 19, 2008 at 12:51 AM Mar 19, 2008 at 12:51 AM

ALAN ROYCE Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #13 · Anhinga Nice image, Scott. I'm liking the softness of the feathers in your post - some sharpening could me made, but don't lose that softness (IMHO, of course) Composition wise, I find that the forground, bright, colored feathers compete with the eye for my attention. The eye, along with the beak and head, wins, but I still feel the pull of the feathers. Since I settled on the eye, and head, the portrait crop now competes with that. Here's a landscape crop - without the pull of the feathers. Alan Edited on Mar 19, 2008 at 03:01 AM Mar 19, 2008 at 02:51 AM

sbeme Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #14 · Anhinga Bob, Alan, Thanks for lending your eyes and talents to the image. Color is more accurate in these re-works. I'm curious what others think about the landscape crop. Scott G Mar 19, 2008 at 06:34 PM

Alan321 Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #15 · Anhinga Scott, you need to get a NR program such as Neat Image Pro. Bob, I take it that you worked with the raw image. It looks to me like there is still too much noise in it. Neat Image Pro should be able to remove more of the very low frequency blotchiness than you achieved, but you need to tick the appropriate box as an option. I like the landscape image because the bottom part of the original was not sharp enough compared to the rest. However, I do not like the high contrast look (perhaps too much sharpening on the fine details) as it seems rather unnatural. At first the appearance of the bird's neck looked a bit odd but it was that way in the original too. - Alan Mar 25, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Bob Jarman Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #16 · Anhinga Alan, I use NI Pro but am not familiar enough with it to really fine tune it. Yes, Scott provided the RAW file, I stayed with CS3 although although I'd really like to work on it with Capture NX but that doesn't seem to want to read Canon files regards, Bob Edited on Mar 25, 2008 at 11:26 PM Mar 25, 2008 at 11:25 PM

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