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I’m considering the purchase of hyperdrive colorspace but I’ve read somewhere that it is slow while browsing thru the pictures. Somebody wrote that it takes about 6-8 sec to complete the full render of the picture before allowing to zoom in. Is it true statement?

Does anyone have some news on new Colorspace O coming to the stores?


Mar 06, 2008 at 02:30 AM
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i shoot raw 90% and it takes about 8 sec to render a 15MB G9 raw image so that it may be zoomed and panned about. the rendering is a 2 stage affair. stage 1 is an instant rough image then stage to is the refinement to crystal clear in about 8 sec for 15MB. i find that far from objectionable for what this little unit can do vs the rest of its competitors

Edited by sjms on Mar 06, 2008 at 09:22 AM GMT

Mar 06, 2008 at 04:08 AM
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I agree with sjms. Browsing through images really isn't a problem and doesn't seem to take as long as you mentioned however sometimes RAW files can take a little longer. Then you also have the option to recreate or cache the thumbnails which basically analyses all the pics and renders them prior to browsing. This can take a while though (depending on how many images you have) but once they're done the browsing is instantaneous, even on RAW images...therefore no real problem. The main advantage of this little unit is not the ability to view the full images but the fact that it can backup your cards really really quickly.

Mar 06, 2008 at 02:13 PM
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BraN wrote:
. ... The main advantage of this little unit is not the ability to view the full images but the fact that it can backup your cards really really quickly.


I fully understand that, but I was thinking if having slow render of picture is worth of paying extra $$ for color screen over the "space" model - which is mainly the reason of buying this unit, isn't it?

Now I see that it shouldn't be an issue for me.

Thanks guys for input...


Mar 06, 2008 at 04:46 PM
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kosin wrote:

Does anyone have some news on new Colorspace O coming to the stores?


I just emailed the company and they said that the new Colorspace should be available for sale in the US either this week (week of March 17th) or next.

Mar 18, 2008 at 02:11 AM
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kevphoto wrote:
kosin wrote:

Does anyone have some news on new Colorspace O coming to the stores?


I just emailed the company and they said that the new Colorspace should be available for sale in the US either this week (week of March 17th) or next.


Does it finally support SATA drives or is it still stuck in the 20th century

EB

Mar 18, 2008 at 03:07 AM
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The Colorspace O is now available on the hyperdrive website.

It still only supports IDE drives.

Mar 21, 2008 at 09:23 PM
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@^#$%!

EB

Mar 22, 2008 at 01:16 AM
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Anyone have suggestions on where to buy this from besides the hyperdrive site? They're selling it for $249 and I was hoping closer to $199...

Mar 27, 2008 at 01:42 AM
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well if you want the colorspace O you will be buying it from them at $249. hoping to get it for $199 isn't going to get it any faster since there is currently no other source. it is brand new as of last week. there will be no other source for it for possibly quite some time. as was the case for the original colorspace too for about 6 months before they shipped to other vendors for retail sale.

Mar 27, 2008 at 02:23 AM
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Yes, and the retail versions include an overpriced hard drive.

The O version seems to be the same as the original Colorspace, but with a larger, and hence lower-resolution, display.

EB

Mar 27, 2008 at 02:28 AM
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Funny that B&H sells the "O" with harddrive for less than they hyperdrive site...

Mar 27, 2008 at 11:52 AM
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then i stand corrected and apologize. when they originally offered the colorspace it took 6 months to show up at vendors like BH. they seem to have improved their record as they have gotten more popular. they don't offer it w/o the drive though which i believe thats what you are looking for. that i prefer to control as to what brand and capacity i use. hey maybe you'll get your price but just not now but i just ordered the shell and got a 120 drive and it was total $325

Mar 27, 2008 at 02:05 PM
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It's cool - I found a place in Canada that sells the shell for $199 - so I can put a 120gb Seagate in it for $80, so grand total $280

Mar 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM
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kevphoto wrote:
The Colorspace O is now available on the hyperdrive website.

It still only supports IDE drives.

I fail to see why this would be a problem. An IDE drive is easily faster than all of it's interfaces. There is no real world difference in energy use either. So why would you want a SATA drive?

Mar 27, 2008 at 11:24 PM
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Rijsberman wrote:
kevphoto wrote:
The Colorspace O is now available on the hyperdrive website.

It still only supports IDE drives.

I fail to see why this would be a problem. An IDE drive is easily faster than all of it's interfaces. There is no real world difference in energy use either. So why would you want a SATA drive?


Sadly there is only one 250GB IDE drive and development of IDE drives has basically ceased. Larger drives are all SATA. If you can live with only 250GB in the long term and that one WD model is around for a while, then it may not matter. I don't want to have to buy a new PSD in a year or so to get a larger capacity such as 500GB. An SATA PSD should be fine up to 2TB, which presents other issues.

EB

Mar 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM
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I have just orderd a ColorSpace with no hard drive, and am looking for a good hard drive for it right now. I see SATA HD are not supported, but what about UDMA ? I hear this standard is supposedly compatible with IDE, but I am not a hardware guru and would like to get the purchase right.

If no conclusive answer is found, then I already found a couple of rather cheap Samsung HD (but is Samsung very safe for hard drives ?).

Apr 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM
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Xavier Rival wrote:
I have just orderd a ColorSpace with no hard drive, and am looking for a good hard drive for it right now. I see SATA HD are not supported, but what about UDMA ? I hear this standard is supposedly compatible with IDE, but I am not a hardware guru and would like to get the purchase right.

If no conclusive answer is found, then I already found a couple of rather cheap Samsung HD (but is Samsung very safe for hard drives ?).


Online info about the colorspace indicates any 2.5" "pata or ide" drive should be fine.

Any hard disk can fail (and this will happen sooner if you bang it around). If you are concerned, you can either keep the data on the cards until you make another copy, or use two colorspaces for redundancy.

Apr 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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Yes, the manual says "IDE, or PATA, or ATA-6 or ATA-100 at most 10mm thick hard drive".
When checking available hard drives at the Rue Montgallet website (those from Paris know what I mean ), I see few IDE drives, but many DMA ones; I did read on one or two forums people saying they were connecting DMA drives on IDE maps, but would like to check whether someone actually did that on the Hyperdrive.

Apr 13, 2008 at 03:01 PM
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Xavier Rival wrote:
Yes, the manual says "IDE, or PATA, or ATA-6 or ATA-100 at most 10mm thick hard drive".
When checking available hard drives at the Rue Montgallet website (those from Paris know what I mean ), I see few IDE drives, but many DMA ones; I did read on one or two forums people saying they were connecting DMA drives on IDE maps, but would like to check whether someone actually did that on the Hyperdrive.


If you check wikipedia, you can see that most all IDE drives do DMA. I think what you are seeing is a claim of UDMA, which would mean ATA/ATAPI-4, aka ATA-4, aka Ultra ATA/33, aka UDMA/33 (or newer).

If you want a compatibility check, maybe posting the exact model would help others understand what drive you are looking at.



Apr 13, 2008 at 07:40 PM
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Assuming you aren't looking for ancient hardware, if it doesn't say SATA, SATAII or SCSI its going to be a PATA drive, the types of which are all backwards compatible. Worst case you might end up with a drive a slower than max speed, but unless its a really old slow drive this shouldn't be an issue either.

Apr 14, 2008 at 08:39 AM
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Thanks Badtz, it is exactly what I wanted to know.

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