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Archive 2008 · summicron R 50mm

andc
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p.2 #1 · summicron R 50mm


Well, my Summilux-R 50/1.4 (E55) just arrived today so it'll be interesting to see how it compares to my Summicron-R 50/2 (E55).
I doubt I can justify keeping both.
Well, maybe...

andy
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Mar 06, 2008 at 12:54 PM
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p.2 #2 · summicron R 50mm


what's the difference between the german-made and canada-made ones?


Oct 09, 2008 at 06:50 AM
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p.2 #3 · summicron R 50mm


jaetie wrote:
what's the difference between the german-made and canada-made ones?


The only difference is where they were made.



Oct 09, 2008 at 09:39 AM
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p.2 #4 · summicron R 50mm


ok, i am looking at a canada-made copy, should i then get the one with the built-in hood?


Oct 09, 2008 at 10:13 AM
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p.2 #5 · summicron R 50mm


I had the first version and I sold it which I'm still kicking myself for it was not quite as sharp in the corners and edges as the CZ 1.7 but it was equal when stoppd down. It also had better bokeh and better colour. I really can't understand why I sold it. Later versions are reputedly better but still cost a fair bit - I'll be buying another ASAP but will probably have to pay much more than I sold the old one for.


Oct 09, 2008 at 12:32 PM
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p.2 #6 · summicron R 50mm


jaetie wrote:
ok, i am looking at a canada-made copy, should i then get the one with the built-in hood?


The one with the hood is the newer lens.



Oct 09, 2008 at 02:29 PM
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p.2 #7 · summicron R 50mm


One more vote for the first version (E44?),


Leitz Wetzlar Summicron R 2/50 1st version Ser. 248X on K100D no PP, slightly cropped


Basic sketch for the lens schemes,


"The current Summicron-R is almost identical in optical construction with its counterpart in the M-system. It is one of the two or three best standard lenses in the world. The predecessor from 1964 was balanced for high contrast at wide openings. The disadvantage of the design was a slight shift of focus when stopping down, that resulted in the best sharpness zone shifting from center to a zone outside of the center. The current version is a bit less contrasty at full aperture, but performs better when stopping down, and its image quality is more evenly distributed over the whole image area. Stopped down to f/4 the lens already delivers its best performance." Source: Erwin Puts

Edited on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:28 AM · View previous versions


Oct 09, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Manfred W. fEU
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p.2 #8 · summicron R 50mm


jaetie wrote:
what's the difference between the german-made and canada-made ones?

I assure you absolute none some Canadian made ones even topped the Wetzlar ones. Just for the record the Apo Telyt f3.4 and the Noctilux 50mm f1 come to mind. The Canadian factory is still producing for NASA.



Oct 10, 2008 at 04:30 AM
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p.2 #9 · summicron R 50mm


This thread made me pull out the 50mm Summicron this morning and try a shot in my backyard to see how it is performing. I will be shooting some fall colours next week and will make sure I bring this lens.

Here is the image, cropped a bit. I was at F8 and lens at the infinity stop.

http://robsteve.com/FM/L1060202crp.jpg


full size image linked here. It is about a 10mb jpeg.



Oct 10, 2008 at 11:32 AM
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p.2 #10 · summicron R 50mm


That's a typical early leica rendering of the blue with it's shift to cyan. If the early ones were high contrast when wide open I'd be struggling to focus the later ones. One of my gripes was the low contrast wide open compared to all my other 50's esp the CZ 1.7. I never noticed any focus shift either. If I get a 5DII I will have to treat it to a late 50 Summicron and 28mm ROM + my existing 135mm 2.8.


Oct 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
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p.2 #11 · summicron R 50mm


It is a newer ROM version.

I am looking at the image now with a PC and IE 7 and it does look way too cyan compared to my Macbook Pro and firefox. I think this may be browser related or a Mca/PC thing. Try dragging the image into Phototshop.

Robert



Oct 10, 2008 at 01:52 PM
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p.2 #12 · summicron R 50mm


When I open this page with FireFox 3.03 and with the firefox colour management enabled, the image doesn't look as cyan. In Firefox, you need to enable the colour management.

Here is a web page to check if your web browser is ICC enabled.

http://www.color.org/version4html.xalter



Oct 10, 2008 at 02:15 PM
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