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Photomatt
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p.1 #1 · The trick to a good silhouette?


I have a bride who's made a request for a silhouette shot in the entrance to the church. I've never really attempted one of these, but since this bride really wants it I'd like to make sure I nail this shot.

My guess would be meter for the sky behind the bride, set to manual and fire away. Maybe even stop down 1 additional stop?

Any other tricks to a good silhouette?



Feb 27, 2008 at 04:46 PM
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p.1 #2 · The trick to a good silhouette?


You guessed right.


Feb 27, 2008 at 04:51 PM
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p.1 #3 · The trick to a good silhouette?


Shoot in RAW so you can tweak the exposure, if needed.

http://EMPhotography.smugmug.com/photos/193547014_erUF2-M.jpg



Feb 27, 2008 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #4 · The trick to a good silhouette?


I did a little experimenting with 4:30pm light, and actually found that I got better results with 3-4 stops down.

Is that going too far, or is it really just dependent on the specific lighting?



Feb 27, 2008 at 05:00 PM
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p.1 #5 · The trick to a good silhouette?


You might see some noise if you stop down that far.


Feb 27, 2008 at 05:14 PM
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p.1 #6 · The trick to a good silhouette?


As long as you stick to ISO100-400, you won't see any noise. I shoot a proper exposure for the background and adjust in RAW. You don't want to risk having to bump up your exposure. That's what'll give you noise.


Feb 27, 2008 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #7 · The trick to a good silhouette?


Liza, please explain further, I don't understand how you'd get noise if stopping down too far, wouldn't that just darken your image to eventual black?

I thought you got noise from high iso, and pushing the exposure too much to brighten up your image or am I missing something?



Feb 27, 2008 at 05:43 PM
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p.1 #8 · The trick to a good silhouette?


If you've got a high ISO and an older body (300D, 350D, 1D), underexposing is guaranteed to give you some nasty noise and (usually) banding even before having to bump up the exposure in PP. A 5D or similar will give you much more leeway when you do underexpose and have to recover it, but even a 5D RAW will start to show noise if you bump it more than +1 in PP.


Feb 27, 2008 at 05:48 PM
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p.1 #9 · The trick to a good silhouette?


bacilonur wrote:
If you've got a high ISO and an older body (300D, 350D, 1D), underexposing is guaranteed to give you some nasty noise and (usually) banding even before having to bump up the exposure in PP. A 5D or similar will give you much more leeway when you do underexpose and have to recover it, but even a 5D RAW will start to show noise if you bump it more than +1 in PP.


I assume that you were trying to answer my question to Liza, and I know what you mean with high ISO & pushing exposure in pp. I thought Liza was on to something I didn't fully understand before. Thanks for clearing that up though.



Feb 27, 2008 at 05:57 PM
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p.1 #10 · The trick to a good silhouette?


Stopping down "too far" means "too much" to the point that you have to recover a bit in post. However, if you stop down to where it needs to be your noise should not be bad.


Feb 27, 2008 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #11 · The trick to a good silhouette?


Thanks everyone! This is one of those, get it right in the camera, and your post production will yield better results.

Liza, I'm with ya... stopping down too far would then require you to bring the background back up in PP, resulting in noise. Rather a properly exposed background, and bring up the blacks a bit does the trick right on.

I'll do another test tomorrow.



Feb 27, 2008 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #12 · The trick to a good silhouette?



after you shoot, you can go into the curves pallette and raise the top,right part of the curve line, you will find that the bright areas brighten.

then, pull down on the bottom,left of the curve line, and that will darken the shadows into a true black silohuette...good luck.

mitch
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Feb 27, 2008 at 08:31 PM
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p.1 #13 · The trick to a good silhouette?


Sorry I wasn't able to answer your question in a timely manner, Matt. I shoot sports as well and am all too familiar with the noise problem in underexposed images when you try to adjust them in RAW. It's best to either properly expose or overexpose just a bit to avoid the noise issue. In the photo I posted above, you could see the couple in the original. I made the silhouette using a RAW converter.


Feb 27, 2008 at 11:05 PM
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p.1 #14 · The trick to a good silhouette?


It's not in the church, but it's the same technique: exposure for the light, and darken the shadows in PP.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/1777512812_2da45bc5d4.jpg

Edited on Feb 28, 2008 at 04:10 AM



Feb 28, 2008 at 03:59 AM
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p.1 #15 · The trick to a good silhouette?


Best thing is to set the exposure in manual for the scene as though the couple were not there. So that the background is well exposed. Then take the photo making sure the couple is in the shadows.


Feb 28, 2008 at 03:27 PM





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