Duncan Gibson wrote:
I love my new 5D too, but here's some interesting data from flickr that may support the argument of the xxxD's importance.
Camera Millions of of Flickr Photos
EOS 350D 36.4
EOS 400D 18.3
EOS 300D 16.8
EOS 20D 16.7
EOS 30D 9.4
EOS 5D 6.47
EOS 10D 5.4
EOS 1D2 1.5
EOS 40D 1.3
EOS D60 0.8
EOS 1Ds2 0.8
EOS 1D2N 0.8
EOS D30 0.55
EOS 1Ds 0.49
EOS 1D 0.44
EOS 1D3 0.25
EOS 1Ds3 0.003
The most glaring conclusion is that price is the most important determinant of camera popularity (at least among the flickr community).
I was surprised at how well the 20D did as compared to the 10D.
Finally, I doubt the relative unpopularity of the ! series camera is at all indicative of Hrow's assertion that 1D3 will represent a turning point in Canon's popularity among professionals. Rather, it seems the owners of professional cameras are less inclined to give their pictures away!.
Another interesting observation is that the 4 most popular Canon cameras on flickr are SLRs. Not by a small margin either. The most popular point-and-shoot is the Powershot SD400, and it garners only 15.5 million pictures posted (this is somewhat contrary to my earlier conclusion that the owners of pro-bodies are less inclined to give their photos away. Instead the owners of consumer and entry level "pro-sumer bodies are more likely to give their photos away.
Finally (because I am in an OCD mood), here are the same numbers for Nikon.
Camera Millions of of Flickr Photos
D50 18
D70 17
D80 11.5
D70s 10
D200 9.7
D40 5.6
D100 4
D40X 2.2
D2X 1.9
D1X 0.9
D2H 0.5
D2Xs 0.24
D1 0.2
D1H 0.15
D2Hs 0.09
D3 0.028
D300 0.007 ...Show more →
Interesting data, and I agree that this somewhat reflects on amateurs posting on Flickr more that your average pro shooter. Interesting nonetheless.
EB-1 wrote:
Flickr sounds like a typo. Do they have actual sales data or just a plpularity contest?
EB
These sort of statistics are relatively meaningless since the site you mention wasn't even in existence when some of these cameras appeared - even if one wanted to post to the site. -- Incidentally most pros wouldn't use that type of site anyway.
I'm surprised by the poll results, but that may be a function of how long the visitors of FM have been following digital SLRs.
I've used SLRs since 1979 and thus DSLRs were both novel and unattainable. The prices were out of this world. The Nikon D1 was the epitome of what a DSLR should be, but it was far too expensive for amateurs. Then... Canon released the D30.
For me, without a doubt, the D30 was the most influential DSLR ever. It made digital photography something that mere mortals could enter as their hobby, instead of a realm reserved for professionals only. The D30 sold like hot cakes, and with good reason!
Canon started a revolution with the D30 that continues to this day. We would have no Nikon prosumer DSLRs if Canon hadn't jumped in. Why did Canon start with a prosumer DSLR instead of a professional model, leaving the Nikon D1 unchallenged? Some suppose it was Canon's business agreement with Kodak to allow Kodak to produce digital backs for Canon film SLRs for the pro market. Once that expired, the 1D came out (and this, oh fellow traveler, is why the 1D bears close resemblance to the Kodak D2000-- so the pros could come over to a Canon DSLR without a large shock in operating procedures).
Yes, the D30. I remember it well. I only wish I had had Pondria's insight and held onto that gem. It would be a favorite still of mine, if only for nostalgic reasons.
For me, it was the release of the Canon 10-22 EF-S lens that made it possible to move to digital. I need WA to shoot my work (I'm an architect) and couldn't consider giving up my Canon Ftb w/17mm S.S.C. until the 10-22 was released, which I bought with a 20D. A few years later, I moved to the 5D w/17-40, so those are my milestones.
The 300D has finally lured many of us film shooters over to the digital side....just to see what kind of a wretched IQ we could get from the new technology.
The first DSLR without a beastly price tag attached to it.
The d30 is the mold...but the Rebel brought PnShooters to SLR photography. (my vote is with the d30...my first introduction to Dslr photography...it was actually easier to use than my A95...easier to access user options...)
Edited by jay tieger on Jan 12, 2008 at 09:06 PM GMT
Edited by jay tieger on Jan 12, 2008 at 09:07 PM GMT
Kyle Yates wrote:
These sort of statistics are relatively meaningless since the site you mention wasn't even in existence when some of these cameras appeared - even if one wanted to post to the site. -- Incidentally most pros wouldn't use that type of site anyway.
cheers
-k
Exactly. Separating the wheat from the chaff on Flickr is like finding a needle in a haystack. Not at all shocking that the xxxDs have a monopoly over there. Influential? Sure, I guess, if you consider the onslaught of pure crap that is posted on the net these days. How many bloody Ken Rockwell landscapes can Earth support? We are close to finding out.
D30. It was the prototype for the affordable DSLR. The D60, 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 5D and DRebels are mere descendants, tweaked a little more with each generation.
Gochugogi wrote:
D30. It was the prototype for the affordable DSLR. The D60, 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 5D and DRebels are mere descendants, tweaked a little more with each generation.
I'd say the D30 by far. It was the most unique camera compared to everything else at the time. Instead of a CCD based D1 for 5k, the D30 brought forth a new sensor format, and put digital SLR cameras into the hands of consumers for the first time. I'm still amazed by the image quality of the D30 at 100%. I don't think any cameras now days can surpass it for noise performance at ISO 100. There was none! Now days, you shoot any camera at ISO 100 and you'll still get noise. Of course if you scale it down to 3MP, it will be gone, but still.
Do they have actual sales data or just a plpularity contest?
