Colin Key
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floris wrote:
Colin Key wrote:
If these are "natural" shots they are fabulous, if they are taken by "live baiting" they are disgusting rubbish.
This shot appears to show a live mouse:
http://www.pbase.com/keithrankin/image/90830677
I find this practice appalling.
Colin
They are indeed fantastic images.. but I too was wondering if you'd baited them for these. I can't see how you could get that close to a face on prey capture without doing it.. and I do agree I'm against that practice.
Thanks for a small word of support on this floris. How people can sacrifice the lives of other animals just to get some "great shots" defeats me. I have had replies from people who think that using live mice (or hampsters, gerbils, etc.) is no worse than putting seeds and berries on a bird feeder - can you imagine what goes on in these people's minds (if they have minds)?
At least POTN issued a statement that "live baiting" was not welcomed or condoned in the procurement of raptor images; this forum and NSN appear to encourage it. It is my aim to see it stamped out and the photographers using this barbaric method banned from submitting photographs on-line or anywhere else. To that end I have already made representations to the press and media as well as animal welfare groups who are, at this moment in time, "interested".
Colin 
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I thought this thread was dead a month ago, so sincerely thank you all for the encouraging comments, look forward to getting out again tomorrow. Happy Weekend everyone