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Aaron at Canon UK just called to book in my 1D3 for fix. When I told him I had sold it he asked what I had replaced it with. We had talked about Nikon during the last call. He is aware that people are moving. He asked why I had replaced it with 1Ds3 and when I said it was due to my collection of glass he said that was a common reason for sticking with Canon. They are sending me a 2GB flash card as a sweetener. They seem to be taking the threat seriously, by calling each photographer and trying to find out what she thinks, and offering what it takes, within reason to keep them sweet.

Maybe Canon Japan can be persuaded to fix the lack of joystick AF point selection in firmware if enough of us complain about it. Maybe they will go so far as to hire interface designers instead of letting engineers do it next time.



Dec 17, 2007 at 08:26 AM
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brainiac wrote:
Maybe Canon Japan can be persuaded to fix the lack of joystick AF point selection in firmware if enough of us complain about it. Maybe they will go so far as to hire interface designers instead of letting engineers do it next time.


how many people bagged for a fw that makes the Direct Print button reconfigurable on the 5D? ... not a chance ....



Dec 17, 2007 at 08:39 AM
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phibes wrote:
how many people bagged for a fw that makes the Direct Print button reconfigurable on the 5D? ... not a chance ....



They should drown the person that decided to add that print button to a DSLR in a vat of Kirin Ichiban. Kompai!



Dec 17, 2007 at 08:50 AM
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I recently got a very detailed web 'interview' in regard to my support experience. It was somewhat interactive, in that it actually came back and asked me to explain the rather low ratings I had given. There were some very specific questions about whether or not I'd suggest Canon to others, whether I'd consider changing to a different brand, etc. Interesting.

As to the Direct Print button, some market segments actually use it, but why they don't make it user-configurable is a mystery to all.



Dec 17, 2007 at 08:58 AM
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There were some very specific questions about whether or not I'd suggest Canon to others, whether I'd consider changing to a different brand, etc. Interesting.


Jeff, Many companies do this thing today. Its known as Net Promoter Score Or simply put what % age of your customer base is likely to recommend the brand to a friend. Its tracked on a continuous basis and any dip in this % age is investigated thoroughly.



Dec 17, 2007 at 09:06 AM
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mlavander wrote:
Kompai!


Kampai



Dec 17, 2007 at 09:17 AM
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Rampai65 wrote:
Jeff, Many companies do this thing today. Its known as Net Promoter Score Or simply put what % age of your customer base is likely to recommend the brand to a friend. Its tracked on a continuous basis and any dip in this % age is investigated thoroughly.


I felt that it was very clearly a result of the MkIII service debacle, based upon the rather specific questions asked. I wish there had been a way to save it...



Dec 17, 2007 at 09:25 AM
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Etadam wrote:
Kampai



"kanpai" guys...it's "kanpai" unless you were already blitzed when you wrote it.



Dec 17, 2007 at 10:45 AM
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phibes wrote:
how many people bagged for a fw that makes the Direct Print button reconfigurable on the 5D? ... not a chance ....


The print button remains a mystery and a consternation. I would be happy to be able to custom configure the print button into a MLU etc., they could even still call it a print button, so what!



Dec 17, 2007 at 04:37 PM
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They are sending me a 2GB flash card as a sweetener.

These cards retail for $30 US these days. They'll need to do a lot more than that to retain customers... like releasing a good camera.



Dec 17, 2007 at 06:06 PM
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The last 5 2 Gig CF cards I bought were $15 each - they are really dropping...


Dec 17, 2007 at 07:02 PM
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brainiac wrote:
Maybe Canon Japan can be persuaded to fix the lack of joystick AF point selection in firmware if enough of us complain about it. Maybe they will go so far as to hire interface designers instead of letting engineers do it next time.


Canon 1D ergonomics was clearly lacklustre. Today in light of MkIII user interface improvements one can perhaps say that with impunity. A few years ago one got incenerated crisp for a suggestion of sorts by all the "pros" who could operate their 1D's blindfolded and one-fingered (non extended).

However, I think Canon would do better by letting engineers take charge of their overall camera design as opposed to letting computer programmers run amok with their Digics.



Dec 17, 2007 at 07:22 PM
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Jeff wrote:
I felt that it was very clearly a result of the MkIII service debacle, based upon the rather specific questions asked. I wish there had been a way to save it...


I'd guess you're right, Jeff. I know my company does internal market research out the wazoo. It's the only way you're going to figure out where you're messing up. It's good news that they're putting together the numbers although I wouldn't really want to be Canon's internal market research guy that has to brief the results throughout the company. Not going to be a pleasant task to formally tell all the various departments how badly they messed up (although I'm sure they already know it.)



Dec 17, 2007 at 09:41 PM
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The only thing more useless than the DirectPrint button is another thread lambasting it.

The fellow to whom I sold my 1D3 lives near the Elstree repair center. They fixed the camera in one day and he is picking it up now.

My 2GB(!) CF card arrived today. They are trying, but I agree, a 2 gig card isn't a lot of use. I am using 8's.



Dec 19, 2007 at 09:57 AM
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Etadam wrote:
Kampai


k nakamatsu wrote:
"kanpai" guys...it's "kanpai" unless you were already blitzed when you wrote it.



中末さん、according to modified Hepburn the ん in romaji can be written n or m depending on the context ; as in かんぱい both kanpai and kampai are authorized

エタダム



Dec 19, 2007 at 11:33 AM
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EltonTeng wrote:
These cards retail for $30 US these days. They'll need to do a lot more than that to retain customers... like releasing a good camera.


That indeed would be nice…

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Dec 20, 2007 at 09:13 AM
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brainiac wrote:
The fellow to whom I sold my 1D3 lives near the Elstree repair center. They fixed the camera in one day and he is picking it up now.


Did you ever hear back if your former camera was actually 'fixed' or not?



Jan 09, 2008 at 05:26 PM
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Jeff wrote:
As to the Direct Print button, some market segments actually use it, but why they don't make it user-configurable is a mystery to all.


I agree...all the DSLR direct print buttons should be configurable (not just the 5D)....heck my G9's direct print button is configurable, so why can't my 30D's be?



Jan 09, 2008 at 05:51 PM
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I got two 2gb CF cards at costco the other day for $25. $30. for one is overpriced.


Jan 09, 2008 at 05:55 PM





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