Register · Software · Search · Image Upload · Buy & Sell · Reviews · Hosting

Moderated by: guardian
Username   Password

Visit the FM Store · Image Upload · Buy & Sell
FM Forum Rules
FM Forums | General Gear-talk | Join Image Upload
end
Go to previous topic Go to next topic
Benny L
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #1 · THE BEST filters available..


I want the best, and being half italian and having the uncontrollable urge to buy the best and most expensive i want to know what the best filters are..

I have been looking at B+W for a while but i want to know what other peoples opinions are on Tiffen, Hoya, Rodenstock etc

cheers in advance..

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 12:34 PM
louis fusco
Offline
Image Upload: On
p.1 #2 · THE BEST filters available..


singh ray, i know where your coming from... but the best filter is no filter on quality glass.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 01:28 PM
Paratima
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #3 · THE BEST filters available..


Singh-Ray

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 01:31 PM
BeeMan458
Offline
Image Upload: On
p.1 #4 · THE BEST filters available..


A concurrently running thread, that's pretty much finished, has lots of good information in regards to your question as this is an oft asked question.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/593598

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 02:14 PM
bill savitz
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #5 · THE BEST filters available..


What is it that makes Singh-Ray the best?

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 02:17 PM
louis fusco
Offline
Image Upload: On
p.1 #6 · THE BEST filters available..


they don't do glass round uv filters ;o)

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 02:30 PM
mrladewig
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #7 · THE BEST filters available..


Singh-Ray are definitely the best in the areas where they lead. GND filters, warming polarizers, gold-n-blue polarizers. But It doesn't seem like they employ some of the fancy reflection reducing coatings that B&W and others use. So I think the answer is, It depends on the type of filter that you need. Generally it would seem that B&W and Singh-Ray do build extremely high quality filters and price them accordingly.

If you want to buy a filter that is just silly expensive, look at center spot filters for large format wide angles. The cheapest of these I've found is around $300 and they continue to go up from there.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 02:46 PM
sjms
Offline
Buy and Sell: On
p.1 #8 · THE BEST filters available..


actually they're not coated at all

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 02:53 PM
mrladewig
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #9 · THE BEST filters available..


sjms wrote:
actually they're not coated at all


Right, we're on the same page. I knew Singh-Ray didn't have any coatings on the GNDs, but I wasn't certain that they do not use a coating on any filter in their line.

B&W and Hoya and probably some others apply coating or multi-coating to some of their filters. Multi-coating can provide benefits in some situations.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 04, 2007 at 06:38 PM
v. schrijver
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #10 · THE BEST filters available..


For polarizers a B+W Kaesemann or Helipan I guess....

Edited by v. schrijver on Dec 08, 2007 at 12:24 PM GMT

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 05, 2007 at 07:04 PM
B.Keil
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #11 · THE BEST filters available..


Singh-Ray

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 06, 2007 at 10:10 PM
runamuck
Online
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #12 · THE BEST filters available..


Someone educate me here. I've been doing photography as a hobby for maybe 10 years. In all this time, I've been told that coated glass is far superior to uncoated glass. This superiority is why the lensmakers all switched to coated optics umpteen gazillion years ago.

Now, I am told Singh-Ray makes the best filters. They are also uncoated. Do the other mfgrs simply make really lousy filters in hopes the coatings will somehow save them? What's going on here? Is there something I missed in GLASS 101?

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 12:19 AM
Benny L
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #13 · THE BEST filters available..


indeed, i was under the impression that multi-coatings were good as well..

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 10:50 AM
BeeMan458
Offline
Image Upload: On
p.1 #14 · THE BEST filters available..


"... i was under the impression that multi-coatings were good as well.."



They are good but some here have erroneously decided (subjective reasoning) that they're not, so truth has gone out the window in favor of opinion, as opposed to basing decisions on easily verifiable (kitchen sink or lab) fact.

Take time to use your search engine to learn about reflective properties of glass and how these reflections impact image quality. Anti-reflective coatings reduces (doesn't eliminate completely) reflected light, allowing more light to be transmitted to film or sensor; increasing micro-contrast; resolution. To those who care about this stuff and it's impact on the photographic process, yes, it makes an easily verifiable difference. To those who don't, it doesn't because they don't care, so why bother as everybody else is to be forever condemned by their ignorance/indifference.

Cause I'm tired of childish (poorly thought out/immature, don't have a clue how it all works) arguing, I won't respond to "anything" posted in regard to my above, Again, I'll leave it up to you as to whether or not you'll choose to put forth the effort to better understand of what I write in my above, via the search engine.

When one shoots high contrast situations, where concern for flare is an issue, you'll come to appreciate the benefits of quality multi-coatings. Stacked filters used in the image below.



This image is copyrighted by the owner




Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 02:12 PM
sjms
Offline
Buy and Sell: On
p.1 #15 · THE BEST filters available..


i love it. plausable deniablity.



Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 02:41 PM
sjms
Offline
Buy and Sell: On
p.1 #16 · THE BEST filters available..


mrladewig wrote:
sjms wrote:
actually they're not coated at all


Right, we're on the same page. I knew Singh-Ray didn't have any coatings on the GNDs, but I wasn't certain that they do not use a coating on any filter in their line.

B&W and Hoya and probably some others apply coating or multi-coating to some of their filters. Multi-coating can provide benefits in some situations.


it pretty difficult to put the coatings on optical polymer then on glass.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 02:44 PM
sjms
Offline
Buy and Sell: On
p.1 #17 · THE BEST filters available..


BeeMan458 wrote:
"... i was under the impression that multi-coatings were good as well.."



They are good but some here have erroneously decided (subjective reasoning) that they're not, so truth has gone out the window in favor of opinion, as opposed to basing decisions on easily verifiable (kitchen sink or lab) fact.

Take time to use your search engine to learn about reflective properties of glass and how these reflections impact image quality. Anti-reflective coatings reduces (doesn't eliminate completely) reflected light, allowing more light to be transmitted to film or sensor; increasing micro-contrast; resolution. To those who care about this stuff and it's impact on the photographic process, yes, it makes an easily verifiable difference. To those who don't, it doesn't because they don't care, so why bother as everybody else is to be forever condemned by their ignorance/indifference.

Cause I'm tired of childish (poorly thought out/immature, don't have a clue how it all works) arguing, I won't respond to "anything" posted in regard to my above, Again, I'll leave it up to you as to whether or not you'll choose to put forth the effort to better understand of what I write in my above, via the search engine.

When one shoots high contrast situations, where concern for flare is an issue, you'll come to appreciate the benefits of quality multi-coatings. Stacked filters used in the image below.



This image is copyrighted by the owner




yep i agree


This image is copyrighted by the owner





Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 06:10 PM
Brent Ward
Offline
Buy and Sell: On
p.1 #18 · THE BEST filters available..


Heliopan & B&W

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 06:16 PM
roberto1979
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #19 · THE BEST filters available..


Gitzo! Opps, wrong thread.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 07, 2007 at 11:41 PM
runamuck
Online
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #20 · THE BEST filters available..


Thanks, Beeman. I was wondering if someone had rewritten all the texts while I took a nap or ate dinner.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 08, 2007 at 12:27 AM
BeeMan458
Offline
Image Upload: On
p.1 #21 · THE BEST filters available..


"I was wondering if someone had rewritten all the texts while I took a nap..."

That's what happens around here when ya tries ta take a nap.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 08, 2007 at 01:30 AM
senna4ever
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #22 · THE BEST filters available..


The multi-coated B+W, Heliopan & Hoya filters definately reflect the least amount of light.

It's B+W. B&W is a British speaker manufacturer.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 08, 2007 at 12:03 PM
matt4626
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #23 · THE BEST filters available..


Nikon filters were the best..but I don't think they are making many at the moment.

Edited on Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM


Dec 11, 2007 at 06:47 PM
Jim Mcnicholas
Offline
Image Upload: Off
p.1 #24 · THE BEST filters available..


B+W are very high quality and I buy nothing else.

Dec 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM

FM Forums | General Gear-talk | Join Image Upload
end
  Go to previous topic Go to next topic

You are not logged in. Login or Register

  Username   Password  
Lost password?