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p.1 #1 · Wacom Tablet


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I am interested to hear feedback from those that have gone from a mouse to using a WACOM tablet for their post processing work.

With masking, is there a noticable difference in ease to perform this task?

For those that use WACOM, does the 6x9 tablet work or should I go to a larger model?

Thanks for any feedback and comments!
KM

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Nov 28, 2007 at 04:50 PM
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p.1 #2 · Wacom Tablet


I have the small (4x5?) Graphire (cheap one) and really like it. I have never tried a larger one and in the past opinions seemed to be mixed on size.

The higher end tablets (I forget the model name) mainly give more levels of preasure sensitivity which I don't think would help for masking but may be usefull for a artist/painter.

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Nov 28, 2007 at 05:05 PM
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p.1 #3 · Wacom Tablet


I have a 4" x 5" and it is magic compared with a mouse!. I would not even go larger than what I have as otherwise you have to make quite large hand movements. However, especially with a larger screen (I am still on 17" ) a 6 x 9 might be better

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Nov 28, 2007 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · Wacom Tablet


Actually you don't need a large tablet unless you're an artist and you're used to making sweeping brush strokes with your wrist and forearm. The 4x5 and 4x6 widescreen tablets are the ideal size for retouching since you can make precise movements without tiring your arm.

Tablet size is irrelevant to screen size because the tablet comes with the Wacom Tablet Utility software that allows you to map one or two monitors to the tablet.

I currently use a 6x8 Intuos2 and I only use about one-third of its area for retouching. In hindsight I should have gotten a smaller size.

Here's a photo of the Utility showing the tablet mapping function; I set it up to only use about of a quarter of the tablet size when using Photoshop:





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Nov 28, 2007 at 07:11 PM
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p.1 #5 · Wacom Tablet


Cool thanks for the info....think I will go with either the 6x9 or the next smaller size...thanks again for the info.

I am not using it to create artwork (paint strokes, etc) but mainly for post processing pictures and for masking....

KM

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Nov 28, 2007 at 10:08 PM
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p.1 #6 · Wacom Tablet


Ken, for retouching photos a 4x5 or 4x6 tablet is more than enough. Plus it occupies much more space that the tablet area so that's another consideration.

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Nov 28, 2007 at 10:28 PM
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p.1 #7 · Wacom Tablet


I use the Wacom Intuous3 A4 size tablet and while it is really good I find it quite large and after having used an A5 tablet I feel I would have been better going with this, and yes the A4 tablet does take up quite a bit of desk space.

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Nov 28, 2007 at 10:35 PM
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p.1 #8 · Wacom Tablet


James_N wrote:
Here's a photo of the Utility showing the tablet mapping function; I had it step up to only use about of a quarter of the tablet size when using Photoshop:


Thanks James, I have been using the Intuous3 A4 for almost 2 years, I guess I must have been running a really old version of the Wacom driver because that option was never available. I just updated and it is, thanks for sharing!

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Nov 28, 2007 at 10:59 PM
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p.1 #9 · Wacom Tablet


As others have pointed out, a 4x5 or 4x6 Intuos3 tablet is more than big enough. It's significantly easier to use than an mouse.

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Nov 28, 2007 at 11:37 PM
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p.1 #10 · Wacom Tablet


Chiming in:

The tablet is worlds above the mouse in defining detailed masks.

The 4x5 Graphire is more than adequate for that task. The 4x5 size works better when you intend to make "pencil-like" movements.

If you might get into painting with a more fluid stroke, then a larger Intuos might suit you better.

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Nov 28, 2007 at 11:59 PM
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p.1 #11 · Wacom Tablet


I've had an intuos 3 for about 9 months, and would go nuts if I had to give it up. I just kick myself for not getting one sooner.

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Nov 29, 2007 at 12:46 AM
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p.1 #12 · Wacom Tablet


Thanks again for all the responses....

Is there any difference in performance between the 4x5 Graphire and the "Bamboo Fun 4x5"?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Intuos-3-Wacom-Graphics-Tablet-4x5-PTZ-430-USB-NIB_W0QQitemZ230194897065QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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Nov 29, 2007 at 01:17 AM
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p.1 #13 · Wacom Tablet


i just got the graphite as a closeout at best buy for 59.00, it was the 20 sq in unit, 4x5,, just giving it a whirl now, but seems like a pretty useful tool

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Nov 29, 2007 at 03:41 AM
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p.1 #14 · Wacom Tablet


i just got the graphite as a closeout at best buy for 59.00, it was the 20 sq in unit, 4x5,, just giving it a whirl now, but seems like a pretty useful tool

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Nov 29, 2007 at 03:42 AM
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p.1 #15 · Wacom Tablet


wow! $59.00?

I figrured I had to spend close to $300 for the 6x9...they sell these at Best Buy?

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Nov 29, 2007 at 04:46 AM
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p.1 #16 · Wacom Tablet


the higher the screen resolution, the larger the tablet you need because the GUI features on the screen start getting too small. clicking on a menu in 2.5Kx2K mode isn't easy with a 4x6 or even on my 6x8.

Herb...

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Nov 29, 2007 at 07:18 PM
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p.1 #17 · Wacom Tablet


Ken,

Wacom is currently replacing the Graphire line of tablets with the Bamboo line. Perhaps that's the reason another poster was able to get a Graphire at a "closeout" price. Both are considered to be "consumer" tablets and the Intuos3 line the "pro" tablets.

Ken May wrote:
Thanks again for all the responses....

Is there any difference in performance between the 4x5 Graphire and the "Bamboo Fun 4x5"?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Intuos-3-Wacom-Graphics-Tablet-4x5-PTZ-430-USB-NIB_W0QQitemZ230194897065QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




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Nov 29, 2007 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #18 · Wacom Tablet


Thanks James....so Bamboo it is! Thanks for all the feedback and insight.....

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Nov 30, 2007 at 12:05 AM
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p.1 #19 · Wacom Tablet


I have used a 4X5 tablet for 2 years. I decided to splurge and buy a 9x12 for more performance. I returned the 9x12 after 1 day. It seems that the larger tablets are good for artists that use actual brush like strokes with their whole arm but the 4x5 is actually better faster. You wouldn't think so but...

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Nov 30, 2007 at 06:17 AM
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p.1 #20 · Wacom Tablet


I have owned and used the 9x12, 6x8 and 4x5 tablets in Graphire and Intuos in the two larger sizes. The 9x12 is a beast and takes up a lot of real estate - great if you want to sit back with it on your lap! The 6 x9 is nice with dual screens but for 19" or smaller screens the 4x5 or 4x6 will work quite well. The intuos versions are more pressure sensitive and have the programmable keys and slider bars which is amazing if you do a lot of enhancing and especially fine detail retouching like on faces in a group of 15-20 on a 40 x 60 inch image.

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Nov 30, 2007 at 04:36 PM
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p.1 #21 · Wacom Tablet


Thanks for the info....landing on the 4x6 this weekend.

KM

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Nov 30, 2007 at 07:09 PM
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p.1 #22 · Wacom Tablet


I currently use a 19" and 17" monitor for editing. Will the 4x6 Intuos be sufficient. From what i read here, most are happy with a smaller rather a larger working area.

Thank you
Werner

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Dec 01, 2007 at 04:36 AM
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p.1 #23 · Wacom Tablet


Saw in today's ads Best Buy has a Wacom tablet for sale under 100....think it was the size smaller than 4x5....going to take a look at it...anyone here use this one?

KM

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Dec 02, 2007 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #24 · Wacom Tablet


I bought a 4x5 reconditioned Wacom Intuos3 for $119 a couple weeks ago from Digital Graphics Resources.
Over the last 10 plus years I have gone from a very large Wacom(way too much real estate) to a Medium sized 6x8 Wacom to the 4x5 Wacom. I like the 4x5 best.

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Dec 02, 2007 at 11:15 PM
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p.1 #25 · Wacom Tablet


Tablets are great for mask because there great for brush type tools. The size of a tablet does not make much of a difference unless you like to use long sweeping arm and wrist movements while painting. In that case a large tablet surface would be beneficial. Tablets 12x9 and larger have a quick point mode where the tablet surface get mapped into two tablets. So the large tablet are like three tablets in one. However all tablets surfaces can be remapped so you can map a very small portion of the tablet surface to cover your display whole surface. There is also multi monitor support. you can map your tablet to one or more of you displays.

Learn where in the Tablet driver control panel applet you can map and configure you tablet and devices for applications. In applications find out where there tablet support setting are settable. Use Photoshop's brush pallets to configure tablet brush type tools. Use brush tools tool option bar settings to help also. Don't try to do things in a single stroke. Use low opacity and many strokes. When working on mask and your painting with Black and White using brush blending mode overlay will protect areas that are totally White and totally Black only the gray area in the mask will be modifiable. Once a spot become black or white it will not change. This is very helpful working on edge areas.

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