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Scott Stoness
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p.1 #1 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

I took this picture before my dlsr camera in jpeg. With very high magnification on sony f707 with 1.4 multiplier and 5x magnification.

Anyway I really like the framing and the coyote but it is soft.

The following is my best fix:

I would like any suggestions on technique to unsoften the softness

Any other comments would be appreciated too.

To play with original http://web.mac.com/stoness/Stoness/Scott.html and go to bottom and hit button "Link to my full resol... for download" and then hit coyote download. Sorry for so long but my account dynamically links for the download spot.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 18, 2007 at 06:28 PM

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p.1 #2 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Scott,
This is the best that i could do on it.All i did was push the sharpening to the max in DPP and see where that took it.and i also made some curve adjustments, saturation and contrast.I think that there is only so much you can do with this file .You have to sacrifice something.
-Jim

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Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 18, 2007 at 10:37 PM

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p.1 #3 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

I took the full-sized image and set WB and exposure in LR. I then edited a copy with LR adjustments in CS3 to apply smart filters: usm and blur - sharpened, masked coyote, and then Gaussian blur with soft light blend for the background.

Lastly, I used a paint-with-light action to put what at the time I thought was some snap into the coyote.

Looking at it now, it's probably overcooked - at least for my tastes.

Bob

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 12:32 AM

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p.1 #4 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Thanks Jim and Bob. I shall play with again with your suggestions.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 04:00 AM

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p.1 #5 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

I couldn't do a whole lot with it. Here's my best try. I think the image just doesn't have enough detail in it.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 08:10 AM

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p.1 #6 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Hi Scott,

I took a go at it. I did my typical work flow. I opened it in Aperture which converts it to a 16 bit file, Adobe RGB color space, does some initial sharpening, and then I set saturation, contrast, shadow and highlight recovery, and levels if it is needed (it wasn't here). The from aperture I load it in CS3 and I do further adjustments including curves, cloning, cropping, and importantly here final sharpening. For this shot I just used a lot of unsharp mask. Then I covert it back into an 8 bit flie, sRGB color space, and jpeg, resize and post to the web. Anyway, here is the best I could do:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

I hope this helps.

Steve S.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 08:37 AM

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p.1 #7 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Thanks Steve. It looks way better than mine. I can see detail in the snow in your version. And he looks sharper. Do you you remember your settings on sharpening?

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 01:55 PM

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p.1 #8 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Hi Scott,

Mainly I used unsharp mask amount 500 percent, radius .5 pixels, and threshold 0. There are a lot of sharpening rountines out there, but I still find 90 percent of the time that a simple unsharp mask adjustment does as well as anything. I hope this helps.

Steve S.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 04:24 PM

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p.1 #9 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Here's my attempt at it. I started off with a "local contrast adjustment" in PS using USM on a new layer set at "luminosity" mode with settings at: amount 30%, radius 50 pixels and threshold 0.

Next was the usual colour/contrast with levels, curves, selective colour, saturation and shadows & hilites. Ended with a mild hi-pass filter sharpen set at 1.5.

Thanks Steve for the opportunity to practice on a great capture. Did the coyote ever see you?

Cheers.

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 19, 2007 at 05:26 PM

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p.1 #10 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

I don't know if I have an alien monitor or my eyes are just tired, but none of the adjusted images come close to the original. In the "corrected" versions that I see, the image is either washed out, too contrasty, lacks detail, or loses the subtle colors. The original might use a little sharpening, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Scott, I think your original image beats them all.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 20, 2007 at 03:46 AM

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p.1 #11 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Thanks Bill and teejack. I have played and played with the image and concluded that I am glad I have a better camera and will have to go looking for another coyote to pose.

Bill the coyote was walking down the road in the winter. He had stopped to eat someone's banana skin along a hiking trail and he was watching me from about 200 feet.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 20, 2007 at 04:10 AM

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p.1 #12 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Here's mine:

Done all adjustments in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 1.3.
(WB, brightness, contrast and vibrance)

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 20, 2007 at 02:07 PM

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p.1 #13 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Thanks Toivonen

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 21, 2007 at 05:11 AM

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p.1 #14 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Can't seem to attach JPEG file to reply. Messsage says I'm over 175k limit

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 23, 2007 at 04:03 AM

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les von pongra wrote:
Can't seem to attach JPEG file to reply. Messsage says I'm over 175k limit

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Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 23, 2007 at 05:35 AM

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p.1 #16 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

les von pongra - alternatively to Toivonen -

in photoshop - save for web - make the longest width 800 and move the quality down until the jpeg is slightly less than 170 (170 being the limit of size for uploading on fm).

But just make sure you give it a new name or you will lose your full resolution version.

Thanks for trying.

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 24, 2007 at 05:03 PM

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p.1 #17 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Scott Stoness wrote:
...in photoshop - save for web - make the longest width 800 and move the quality down until the jpeg is slightly less than 170 (170 being the limit of size for uploading on fm)...

My JPG is 207KB?

Edited on Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM

Nov 24, 2007 at 05:19 PM

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p.1 #18 · Advice on Fixing Up - Jpeg soft

Yes when you save for web it offers you the choice of kb to save it under by moving the quality down until you get <170kb

see below

Nov 25, 2007 at 02:22 AM


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