Thanks for the input guys and gals. I'm now looking at the 1n and Elan 7. I don't think I can go wrong with either. The usage will be strictly for personal experimentation - family and landscape.
Good luck! Let us know how it works out... especially if you get a 1n... I've always wanted one, but got the 3 instead... just chance in the choice, but the 1n always seemed elegant to me in its solid simplicity. The Elan is a good all around consumer body...
I picked up an Elan 7e + battery grip on ebay for a $100. Although I haven't finished my roll of Velvia slide film that I purchased, I certainly don't mind the film body to compliment my 5D.
mh2000 wrote:
>>If the camera don't break the bank the film costs will...
Certainly you wouldn't want to shoot your high volume commercial events etc. etc. in film, but for creative and personal photography people rarely need to take thousands of photos to get the really good ones that they want (if they work on it instead of just taking the shotgun approach of shooting everything without thought and with the hope that they will accidentally snag an occasional great one) so film/developing is generally a non-issue. Costs about $10 for a film/dev/prints* and frankly, I rarely shoot a full roll every week for my personal stuff (over time I still end up with plenty of really good photos).
*once you factor in prints (which are actually nice to show friends and family sometimes) the cost goes down vs. digital as well......Show more →
Nah, that comment was in reference to someone posting a recommendation for a high Speed camera which would burn through an awful lot of frames. You don't have to do it that way, of course, but I was just trying to make a point...
I think a big part of how you feel about the 3 is how the eye control works for you... it works very well for me and I can't help feeling a huge WOW! whenever I use the camera... hate going to something without eye control and less than 45 AF points after using the 3.
>>I also have a Canon 3. Not as fun as the Nikon F2, but gets the job done.
I would highly recommend the EOS 3. I have had mine for about a year and a half and am loath to switch to digital. The ECF works very well for me and is a brilliant concept, I can't imagine a camera without one, it's just so intuitive–look there, focus there.
You can't go wrong with the Elan 7. If you're getting one, try to get either the Elan 7N or 7Ne. They're much nicer than the original Elan 7. I had the 7N and it makes an awesome church or concert-type camera with its really quiet shutter. IMO the closest DSLR cousin is the original 10D.
If you decide to go for the EOS 3 or 1V, they're great cameras. A word of caution though, after using either, your non-1 series DSLR will feel a bit wimpy.
python2000 wrote:
Thanks for the input guys and gals. I'm now looking at the 1n and Elan 7. I don't think I can go wrong with either. The usage will be strictly for personal experimentation - family and landscape.
Both the EOS 3 and the 1n are outstanding choices and excellent cameras. If you can find a 1v for a decent price, I'd certainly consider it. It's truly a camera for just about every situation, with additional features that the previous 1-series cameras didn't have. Shop around...if you can find one at a price you like, get it; you'll be glad you did. Otherwise, the 3 and 1n are great. Outside the Canon stable, the Nikon F100 certainly merits a good look too as it's a most impressive camera as well.
I shoot a lot of film in the studio on a 1VHS. I sadly sold off all my film cameras a few years ago and now I've reacquired some: a Canon AE-1 program and a F-1, both manual focus, and I just purchased a 50 f/1.2 and a 85 f/1.8 lens (manual focus of course). I've either completely lost my mind, or I need to get back to some unfinished business.
I've been shooting TRI-X lately, and I think I'm going to start developing my own film again (helps keep the costs down). Color slides I'll continue taking to the lab as usual. There's something mysterious about film (like not knowing what the hell you've done until you see the slides/negatives for one) but there's also a quality to it that can be very satisfying.
I may have to update my profile here with my 25 year old film cameras.
i sold off my 1V-HS 5 years ago when i went digital and havent shot a roll of film since...well i missed velvia so much that i just purchased a used Canon 1N for $270.00, im halfway through the first roll, cant wait to see that color.
oh yeah... and one thing about the Rebel G is that it is about the quietest SLR ever made (think Leica silent)... in candid shooting that does make a difference. Focus is slower, but very accurate.
For some reason I took the 20D out today... don't remember why, but realized once again that I much prefer shooting film.
