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p.3 #1 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Ron Hew wrote:
Shane, It is call LP-E4 and FYI I do have 1 spare

Hey buddy, a spare battery?

Now who did you bribe to get one.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 02:47 AM

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p.3 #2 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Shane Canfield wrote:
Ron Hew wrote:
Shane, It is call LP-E4 and FYI I do have 1 spare

Hey buddy, a spare battery?

Now who did you bribe to get one.

OMG!!! B&H has one not showing backorder! And wouldn't you know it...no ordering for now.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 02:49 AM

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p.3 #3 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Shane Canfield wrote:
Ron Hew wrote:
Shane, It is call LP-E4 and FYI I do have 1 spare

Hey buddy, a spare battery?

Now who did you bribe to get one.

Well

It is available in Malaysia but no clue why it is so difficult to get in the state though

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Sep 13, 2007 at 02:50 AM

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p.3 #4 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Shane Canfield wrote:
Ron Hew wrote:
Shane, It is call LP-E4 and FYI I do have 1 spare

Hey buddy, a spare battery?

Now who did you bribe to get one.

Pictureline has them. I bought mine online from them.

Here ya go!

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Sep 13, 2007 at 03:31 AM

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p.3 #5 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Valerie S wrote:
Shane Canfield wrote:
Ron Hew wrote:
Shane, It is call LP-E4 and FYI I do have 1 spare

Hey buddy, a spare battery?

Now who did you bribe to get one.

Pictureline has them. I bought mine online from them.

Here ya go!

Thanks, got it!

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Sep 13, 2007 at 04:04 AM

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p.3 #6 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

I think the screen is very bad, it's just a very bad design, but this comes from the Canon professional philosophy that initially had the 1D coming with no review screen at all because in Canon's words "professional won't use such a thing!" As it was they released it with no zoom!!!

The new screen make people look sick and I nearly vomited the first few times with this camera, luckily they do not look like this on the PC.

I only had joypad AF selection with the Nikon and think it is the ONLY way. Was disappointed that I could not use the joy, or should we call it sad-pad, for AF selection.

My pictures are blue biased ~ must learn how to kill a little blue in the advanced menu for colour balance ~ not looked into that yet.

Push, push push, Canon takes away double button pushing and replace it with push three times, you know we've heard that record, time for a top management change and give the designers a long, long holiday, like on the moon with no internet link-up.

Balance this post ~ I believe that pigs will fly this autumn.

brainiac wrote:

The monitor is yellow. I can't judge colour with it. It is badly at odds with what I get on my computers and print. Does anybody else have horrible yellow colours in skin and elsewhere on the back of the camera?

No joystick focus point selection like on my 5D's. How could this happen?

I still can't zoom into the image review without first pressing play.

No histogram superimposed on full size image on monitor. Why? Because they don't want to copy Nikon? Just mad mad interface decisions not being fixed in a new generation camera. Very depressing..

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p.3 #7 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

I think mine is terrible.

Must track down the only other MK3 in my vicinity and compare them.

bcaslis wrote:
The LCD on the one I'm testing is very good, the colors are not yellow, they are more accurate than any Canon camera I've ever had.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 11:40 AM

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p.3 #8 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Thinking about the interface problems, we need to ask why iPod was such a success when there were plenty of other MP3 players around. Canon needs to stop the engineers determining the interface. If it takes sacking the team and calling in Porsche to do what they did so well on the Contax cameras, then bring it on. The current interface guys can go back to designing VCR's or whatever they were doing before.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 11:43 AM

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p.3 #9 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

I was in between grin and grip shots when the flash just fired. No picture was taken. I didn't have my finger on the shutter button. I was holding my setup in my right hand with the back of my hand facing the ground.

Most likely: the FEL button of the portrait grip. Next time it happens, check to see if the little star is showing by the flash symbol in the finder.
Less likely: static.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 12:23 PM

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p.3 #10 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

"My menu" is annoyingly short. And annoyingly Mycrosoft. 'User menu'? 'Custom menu'? 'My little pony menu'? 'Me, me, me, me'?

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Sep 13, 2007 at 12:26 PM

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p.3 #11 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Valerie S wrote:
I shoot mainly in clubs which is different lighting than theaters and concerts. I'm usually thrilled when my lenses stop down at all (I shoot often in Tv). I'm confident in my settings and technique.

One second would be a long "woosh" (that's my sound for lens creeping into focus). I "think" my Mk III would do similar. Mind you, my comparison is with the center AF point on my 30D (which works great - it's just the other AF points that don't work reliably enough for me). I've got to shoot at a club and judge from that, but I'm afraid of getting sprayed with beer or grinded (ground?) against a stage, and not having the option of returning the camera if it's subpar in performance compared to my 30D.

Using AF assist light on both cameras?

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Sep 13, 2007 at 01:58 PM

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p.3 #12 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

dcmiller wrote:
Using AF assist light on both cameras?

Never.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 03:14 PM

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p.3 #13 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Can't believe nobody's mentioned this:

The "blinking highlights" starts blinking WAY too early . . . long before highlights are truly blown out (especially if you're using RAW), and much sooner than on the 1D-2, 5D, etc.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 03:40 PM

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p.3 #14 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

stanj wrote:..... I have shot literally 1% with Nikon and 99% with Canon in my life, but always, without exception, have immediately understood any Nikon camera that was handed to me.

That's exactly opposite my experience... I was totally befuddled by several Nikons; picked up a 5D and it seemed like an old friend. Sort of like the left brain/right brain differences between Mac and PC users. Maybe it's just a personal predisposition...

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p.3 #15 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

My experience too Harry. Went from Nikon D70/5D/mk111, and the canons just fell to hand quite easily....not so when I used the Nikon. Just me I guess.

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Sep 14, 2007 at 03:32 AM

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p.3 #16 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

I recall when the 1D Mark II first came out, the issue was insufferable softness with out of camera jpgs. I bought one anyway, and used it for three years, loving every minute of it. Now I've purchased the Mark III and am experiencing similar "credibility" issues with the camera. I've only owned this camera for a week and, like the Mark II, every day I use it I like it more. There are so many variables that could be causing shooting and AF problems, user error and too much toying around being two of them. Now people are getting all worked up about rubber covers falling off and the LCD screen being too yellow, and other incidentals. What it's boiling down to is, let's find more ways to trash this camera because it's the cool thing to do these days. To me it's getting so ridiculous it's humorous.

I wonder what would happen if someone decided to do a "post your AF issues" on other Canon or Nikon cameras or "post anything that you are bothered by with this or that particular camera" strings just because it's cool, even though it solves nothing because arguments and opinions seem to hit the 50/50 mark on everything, even the Mark III "polls".

If I can recall, 50/50 means a coin toss, pure chance, and nothing scientific included or underlined.

It's humorous to say the least, but it's beginning to get old, worn out, and other nasty little terms.

One more thing that I don't like about the Mark III: I don't like the way it beakons me to use it, even when I don't seem to have time, but I'm making time now. The camera is so much fun to use that it's pathetic, that's my personal complaint that can be added to all of the others above

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p.3 #17 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

>What it's boiling down to is, let's find more ways to trash this camera because it's the cool thing to do these days.

I explained at the beginning of the post that I sent a message to Canon asking for changes when I first started using a 5D, and that some of those changes have appeared. As many have said on this thread, the 1D3 is a great camera, maybe the greatest so far, but that doesn't make it flawless, and compiling a list of things we would like Canon to fix in a future camera, and sending it to Canon, is a good way of getting that better future camera.

>I wonder what would happen if someone decided to do a "post your AF issues" on other Canon or Nikon cameras...

This thread is about desired fixes to the 1D3 other than the heavily discussed AF problem. Why not start your own thread if you want to talk about other cameras.

>...or "post anything that you are bothered by with this or that particular camera" strings just because it's cool, even though it solves nothing because arguments and opinions seem to hit the 50/50 mark on everything, even the Mark III "polls".

There is some consensus on this thread about some of the camera's annoyances. That means that when I send my list to Canon, I can back it up with views of other users. Needless to say, I won't include yours.

>If I can recall, 50/50 means a coin toss, pure chance, and nothing scientific included or underlined.

50% of users reporting a particular problem isn't a coin toss, it's very strong evidence that a problem exists. Tossing coins is no less scientific than the Schrodinger equation.

>It's humorous to say the least, but it's beginning to get old, worn out, and other nasty little terms.

Sorry not to be an earlier adopter. Why don't you go and hang out on the '1D3 successes' thread and leave the nasty business to us.

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Sep 14, 2007 at 08:20 AM

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p.3 #18 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

>The "blinking highlights" starts blinking WAY too early . . . long before highlights are truly blown out (especially if you're using RAW), and much sooner than on the 1D-2, 5D, etc.

Can anyone else verify this? Does it apply to jpeg shooters as well as raw? Does it adjust for 'highlight tone priority'?

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Sep 14, 2007 at 08:27 AM

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p.3 #19 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

>...I have shot literally 1% with Nikon and 99% with Canon in my life, but always, without exception, have immediately understood any Nikon camera that was handed to me.

I would agree with that, although I have shot as much with Nikon as Canon. There is a logic to Nikon's interface design. There are fewer examples of inexplicable internal incompatibilities, like 'zoom to focus point' failing when you switch to automatic focus-point selection. I think things like Live-view auto-focus and artificial horizon illustrate Nikon's stronger commitment to usability. Apart from my investment in Canon and other glass, the D3 would be close to my perfect camera. But I'm looking forward to a faster 5Dii.

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Sep 14, 2007 at 08:38 AM

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p.3 #20 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

>...One second would be a long "woosh" (that's my sound for lens creeping into focus). I "think" my Mk III would do similar.

Have you tried the Cfn III-5, Lens drive when AF impossible: (1) Focus search off.

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Sep 14, 2007 at 10:31 AM

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p.3 #21 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

Normcar21 wrote:

One more thing that I don't like about the Mark III: I don't like the way it beakons me to use it, even when I don't seem to have time, but I'm making time now. The camera is so much fun to use that it's pathetic, that's my personal complaint that can be added to all of the others above

My experience too! When I haven't touched it for a few days, I get what only can be described as withdrawl symptoms.

Charles

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Sep 14, 2007 at 01:06 PM

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p.3 #22 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

I can appreciate your intent, Richard, but what about those of us who entirely disagree with your own personal list of changes:

•fix yellowy monitor - perhaps slightly indoors, but it's fine outdoors, I can live with it and would prefer the money to be spent in other improvements, but won't say what they are because they are "personal preferences" that I'm sure others would "not" wish to see implemented

•add joystick focus point selection - not even an issue with me personally, so subject to "personal preference"

•add review zooming - same as above

•add histogram over full size review - I wouldn't want that personally

•reduce clicks to set custom wb - I have no issue with the wb format so, again, this is a personal preference that some would want and others would not and others wouldn't give a hoot one way or the other

•play button near right thumb in addition to set - personal preference, cannot be considered an across the board improvement

•error 99 problems - not an issue with me and others I've heard from

•plastic plug cover falls off - not an issue with me or others I've heard from

•button layout disorganised - I love the button layout and see no need for any changes -- this one is purely "personal preference"

•separate wb and quality buttons - more buttons would only confuse, imo

Etc. etc.

If you sent your list to Canon, forgetting all of the other suggestions in this string, and they applied them, I would not like the camera as much as I now do. This is the trouble with the "list" that you are compiling. It is my belief that you would perhaps be solving issues for some, but you would also be causing problems for others that didn't previously exist, in my opinion.

Again, I can appreciate and even admire the "spirit, sincerety and personal motivation" of your string, I am simply suggesting a potential problem with your list, even if Canon took it seriously.

Cheers

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Sep 14, 2007 at 03:38 PM

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p.3 #23 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

>I can appreciate your intent, Richard, but what about those of us who entirely disagree with your own personal list of changes:

Everyone's free to send her own list. I'm sending mine. Quite a few people on this thread have made good suggestions about things which they think could be better. But you've got a good point. Why don't you start another thread about things you won't be writing to Canon about. This thread is for people to discuss 1D3 problems other than AF.

>•add histogram over full size review - I wouldn't want that personally

Thanks for the info. I'm not suggesting they replace any existing view. I'm suggesting they offer an additional view that some people like. Even if it will make you like the camera less for having options which other people like and you don't.

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Sep 14, 2007 at 04:27 PM

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p.3 #24 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

My problem with this darn contraption is that when shooting in manual mode which I do 99% of the time and I have it setup so that I can select focus points by spinning the back wheel I now have to press the +/- button to change aperture and not the * button like on the Mark2.

Now this in of itself is bad as you have to stretch your finger over the top of the camera but what makes it terrible for me is that when I press the +/- button the meter scale disappears from the viewfinder and if you are more than 3 stops over or under you have to guess by how many clicks, then press the shutter button to make the scale appear and if you did not miraculously set the right exposure you now have to have to go through the whole process again and maybe again.

Firmware to switch functions between the +/- and * buttons while retaining the meter scale in the viewfinder would be great or firmware to use the joystick to select focus points would be helpful as well but I guess Canon has to save something for the N version.

Just another example of Canon holding back simple features.

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Sep 14, 2007 at 08:19 PM

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p.3 #25 · 1D3 shortcomings NOT AF

My clients like the results so much I'll have a very hard time justifying a 1DsIII ;-)

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