p.2 #1 · Dell 2407 HC Owners – Calibration Experiences
Hi UCSB,
Thanks for your reply.
I am not experience in calibration, I used to set the simplest way to do the process that's let the Spyder2Pro software to choose most of the default setting. I usually click the next button during the precess but when it came to RGB setting update, it first came out the blue color is very high at the beginning so that I have to dramatically dropped the blue setting to make the three colors could come close to match the 6500K target and less than 0.4.
Anyway, the color looks quite nice and I can see more color of my photo than my old LG 19" LCD.
Can you show me or send me your workflow of the calibration if you use the Spyder2Pro.
p.2 #2 · Dell 2407 HC Owners – Calibration Experiences
CatKing ... I'm not familiar with the Spyder2Pro software. I am using the GretagMacBeth/Xrite Match3 software. It has a four step process: 1) enter targets (color temp=6500k (or what you need); gamma=2.2; and luminance=130 (130 in my case, you may need lower or higher); 2) set contrast interactively; 3) set RGB values interactively; and 4) set luninance interactively. Match3 allows you to move forward or backward though the steps and I will often go to prior steps to check and adjust settings. When all of your inputs have been made Match3 then goes through many color patches and eventually comes back with a summary of your profile.
p.2 #3 · Dell 2407 HC Owners – Calibration Experiences
I just want to give everyone an update on my progress with the Dell 2407 HC.
Well ... I have decided to send it back and get a refund. I've tried a really broad range of approaches with this monitor, but I have not found a setup yet that works to my satisfaction. Essentially, the monitor profiles seem too saturated ... hot for lack of a better word. Reds, oranges in particular, but really a broad range of colors. Perhaps this is being caused because my calibration tools were possibly designed before the advent of extended gamut monitors. Even though I have a six month old $1500 GretagMacBeth Photo SG system, either the calibration device or my knowledge or the monitor has come up lacking.
Working with this monitor you can see that it has potential and the colors that it can produce are truly beautiful. In Photoshop, you can soft proof your monitor under Windows RGB and Monitor RGB and the reduced Window RGB color space seems to have far fewer problems.
I have a couple of days before I send this back and I will contact XRite on Monday and try and discuss the situation with their engineering department.
I am really at a loss as to how a monitor that calibrates out with a DeltaE of .9, white point of 6500k, and gamma of 2.2 is experiencing these kinds of problems. Just to be clear ... these spec's sound great, but don't translate into the kind of results that you would expect.
Sean ... thanks for pointing out ColorEyes. I enjoyed using this software ... both in terms of how you use it and it's results. I think it did the best job of creating a final profile. The validator in ColorEyes reported a final average DeltaE of .5 and a max DeltaE of 1.16. Needless to say these are amazing spec's. But, reds and oranges were still too saturated (hot). It does make me wonder if the patches or color sampling algorithms need to be modified for these extended gamut monitors.
p.2 #6 · Dell 2407 HC Owners – Calibration Experiences
I sent the 2407 HC back to Dell for a refund. I've narrowed my search for a replacement down to the alternatives below. Since, they are all more expensive than the Dell, you might not consider them alternatives.
NEC LCD2470WNX ($800)
NEC LCD2490WUXi ($1450 - $50rebate = $1400)
NEC LCD2690WUXi ($1625 - $ $50 rebate = $1575)
The 2690 is another wide gamut monitor and I am still trying to understand if it should be on my list or not. I think that a good case can be made for sticking with the 2470 and 2490 that are not wide gamut monitors. NEC tech support was not useful, but I am going to be trying to get some info on the 2690 from more knowledgable people within NEC.
In my research, I have found the following site the most useful on the net:
The reviews often have links to their raw calibration and evaluation data (you have to look very carefully to find them). This has been very useful in making the careful decisions about color quality. Don't use their rating system to make your decision because a monitor can get knocked down for gaming support and other non-relevant criteria.
p.2 #8 · Dell 2407 HC Owners – Calibration Experiences
Sunny Sra wrote:
have you looked into the HP wide gamut LCDs?
I'm unsure about which models are you talking about ... my understanding is that the only wide gamut HP monitor was the 30" HP 3065. It does not really have a full set of controls in the monitor (first generation product, I'm sure they will be added) and the color fidelity of the monitor does not seem good enough for a dedicated photo editting workstation. The HP 2465 is a good quality standard gamut monitor at a good price ($650).
