Is it possible to update the polls so that the "I just want to view the results" option will not be counted in the poll statistics?
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
WHY? I think the poll shows some interesting facts as is, afterall you can just ignore the "I just want to view the results" if you want. I think the "I just want to view the results" category perhaps shows the people that may be interested in purchasing the MKIII and are just doing some due diligence prior to making a decision. If I were a Canon rep I might consider this group in one of two ways, as potential customers or potential customers lost.
JackCnd wrote:
Are the Mark III problems such that you would rather be using a Mark II for BIF?
Trying to be fair and clear, the image quality of the Mark III and the high iso capabilty rocks.
But to me the Autofocus is not acceptable at $4500.00
The old saying: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, applies to the previous AF system.
I have an important trip next week and will be takoing both cameras, after I come back, will probably send the III back for service.
fabiolad wrote:
The old saying: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, applies to the previous AF system.
I have an important trip next week and will be takoing both cameras, after I come back, will probably send the III back for service.
I have a question for you. My BG is ex 1D/20D/5D/XTi owner who is really using AIservo for the first time. My longest lens is a 400 f5.6L. My BIF shooting experience is slim to none as with the mkIII is the first time I've tried it. (Great fun BTW I can see how one can get hooked)
Anyhow I recently shot a duck flyby against a foliage BG. It was a 20+ frame burst in RAW, f5.6, 1;/2500th, aiservo/10fps/center point, CFNIII-2- med/slow, Cfn III-3/4/5 all 0, CfnIII-8 - 2.
I did a decent job of keeping the center point on the duck at all times, what I see is 3-4 frames where the duck is reasonably sharp (although not quite as sharp as the lens is capable of from static tests) and then a way OoF shot, then 3-4 more in focus, then 1 out etc. like a pattern to the end.
Is this what you're saying is defective AF wise vs the mkIIn? I think some of us just don't know what to expect.
I don't have enough background in the center point to be able to answer your question.
I use the 45 point AI Servo unles I'm forced otherwise by attaching the 2X teleconverter.
My experience with the Mark III's AI Servo AF is very poor, causing me to loose shots by not acquiring initial focus, even when pumping the shutter button half way many time to re-acquire.
Other times, it would miss the first two images, acquire it for a couple, then loose it again.
My 45 point technique has given me great results in the Mark II body. I expected at least equal if not better.
I am a hard core shooter of action, and therefore very demanding when it comes to Autofocus.
I can understand that for other uses, the camera will be just fine.
Ah, for those who keep posting succesful images, I would expect that a $4500 camera could get at least some....I have a few of those too
Thanks for your reply. Would you normally expect a full sequence shot with the IIn using 45pt to all be in focus? (honest question!) or would there typically be a few frames Oof.
rd4tile wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Would you normally expect a full sequence shot with the IIn using 45pt to all be in focus? (honest question!) or would there typically be a few frames Oof.
I hardly shot the full sequence, but when I did, if it acquired focus, it stayed focused. Whether I liked the wing position or not, would determine the keepers.
I can only speak for my shooting style and my camera, though...
rd4tile wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Would you normally expect a full sequence shot with the IIn using 45pt to all be in focus? (honest question!) or would there typically be a few frames Oof.
With a clear blue background and a large bird (in relation to the viewfinder), I would expect all to be in very good focus.
But with a foilage background, and especially as the bird occupies a smaller part of the frame, I always find that the 45-pt mode (in the 1D and 1D-II) will give out-of-focus shots, caused by the camera picking up the background.
Thanks, and I enjoyed that thread on Naturescapes.net. Reading about the expectations of others has always been part of my learning process until I'm at a point where I feel I have a decent handle on it. (Haven't gotten there yet)
When using my markII and shooting with a burst i would be very happy if out of 10 or 12 images i got several keepers,i didnt expect every shot to be in perfect focus...perhaps my expectations are not as great as others...It seems to me that canon introduced a far more sensitive and fast focusing system to the markIII....the new system seems to focus quite a bit faster but it seems that this new speed has created difficulties for people used to shooting with the older 1 series....My guess is not so much that it is broken but that perhaps it needs to be tweaked a bit to behave more closely in line with what people are used to....as i said,my lenses snap into focus a lot faster with the new camera and the IQ is stunning to my eyes....im guessing this is going to be dealt with by canon coming out with a better explanation of the new focusing system and possibly some kind of firmware update that gives users the ability to tweak the settings more to the older cameras abilities....
No, it seems to work fine (similar to previous 1-Series bodies) 18 (5%)
I'm not sure yet 20 (6%)
I just want to see the results...] 280 (80%)
Total Votes 351 100%
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If I were to assume the people who did not say 'I just want to see the results' are actual owners of the MkII... and gave their honest evaluation of their camera(s)... it would appear that roughly 46% of the people think they have focus problems... So, even if none of the undecided find any problems later, it would seem that a quite large percentage of MkIII users are having noticeable problems... Ouch... that's pretty high.
jonbrach wrote:
When using my markII and shooting with a burst i would be very happy if out of 10 or 12 images i got several keepers,i didnt expect every shot to be in perfect focus...perhaps my expectations are not as great as others...It seems to me that canon introduced a far more sensitive and fast focusing system to the markIII....the new system seems to focus quite a bit faster but it seems that this new speed has created difficulties for people used to shooting with the older 1 series....My guess is not so much that it is broken but that perhaps it needs to be tweaked a bit to behave more closely in line with what people are used to....as i said,my lenses snap into focus a lot faster with the new camera and the IQ is stunning to my eyes....im guessing this is going to be dealt with by canon coming out with a better explanation of the new focusing system and possibly some kind of firmware update that gives users the ability to tweak the settings more to the older cameras abilities.......Show more →
I've been shooting paintball with a 20D for a while now. Last week, I shot a tournament with the MKIII and the percentages were awful. Now I usually get 90%+ good publishable stuff with the 20D, so I know I don't suck. I'm shooting a pro event this weekend with a lot of fast movement both sideways and right at me and will mess with the settings again.
I use a 70-200L 2.8 IS for most of my stuff. Now, last week, I experimented with the 300L 2.8 IS on some still stuff and it was beautiful, so perhaps I need to get the lens checked out. In utilizing the lens calibration in the MKIII, it looked sharp, but the 100% crops were not as sharp as they should have been. Perhaps I should haul the 300 on the road. then I can pinpoint the problem.
I plan on lowering the quickness of the AI one click toward slow, using center point AF with the nine point assist. Any other suggestions?
jonbrach wrote:
When using my markII and shooting with a burst i would be very happy if out of 10 or 12 images i got several keepers,i didnt expect every shot to be in perfect focus...perhaps my expectations are not as great as others...It seems to me that canon introduced a far more sensitive and fast focusing system to the markIII....the new system seems to focus quite a bit faster but it seems that this new speed has created difficulties for people used to shooting with the older 1 series....My guess is not so much that it is broken but that perhaps it needs to be tweaked a bit to behave more closely in line with what people are used to....as i said,my lenses snap into focus a lot faster with the new camera and the IQ is stunning to my eyes....im guessing this is going to be dealt with by canon coming out with a better explanation of the new focusing system and possibly some kind of firmware update that gives users the ability to tweak the settings more to the older cameras abilities.......Show more →
Jon, as much as I would like this to be true, you have some pretty serious shooters having problems. These folks know what they are doing and how to deal change or they wouldn't have gotten to the skill levels that they have achieved. Canon knew they had a problem back in the pre-release days and if it was merely that they needed to teach old dogs new tricks I am quite sure they would have elobrated on it in the manual.
Even if they didn't, they have been getting slammed for some time now, don't you think they would have posted something on the web along the lines of "to all of the stupid people out there who haven't figured it out, set CF 1,376.b.1 to 0, spin around 3 times and howl at the moon." They might be nicer about it but that would be the gist.
I'm still evaluating mine.
I'm kind of concerned about the AF accuracy in one shot mode.
Originally i had done most of my shooting with the 24-105L hand held, as i don't have an L bracket yet.
During a recent trip to Big Sur i shot a lot using my 70-200L IS lens (i've got a RRS plate for that lens) and found that even shooting in one shot mode, some of my shots seemed soft. It's hard to determine if the shots are soft due to the fact they were long exposures, which in some cases were in windy conditions and some were with a 2x extender.
However, some shots of rocky creek bridge that i shot (returning after the intitial ones seemed soft), i shot at a higher ISO tripod mounted, between F11 and F18 and these still seemed soft. I even selected different points to focus on, just to make sure it wasn't just a matter of not having enough depth of field. I still need to process those files (just got back and haven't got around to it).
I did process the following shot that also appears soft. Note that this is a long exposure that was tripod mounted, but there really wasn't any wind.
You got THAT right. When I see an OOF shot, I can uaually look at the metadata and see that the light changed a little while shooting in AV and that took the shutter speed down or something along those lines. Still makes me feel stupid but, come on, I'm not so full of myself to think that I'm awesome but this stuff is just off.
I stand proudly in the "just show me the results" group with many others. I'm not quite in that market at this time, but I believe that many are awaiting more data on this subject. Particularly after Rob Galbraith wrote of his problems. He's pretty well-respected.
Is it possible to update the polls so that the "I just want to view the results" option will not be counted in the poll statistics?
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Not possible. Just ignore the last category, and approximate the math yourself. It's not too hard...
Speaking of which, currently:
Yes, it absolutely has a focusing problem = 35 / 9% (46%)
No, it seems to work fine = 19 / 5% (25%)
I'm not sure yet = 22 / 6% (29%)
[I just want to see the results...] = 316 / 81%
Total Votes 392 100%
