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Archive 2007 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

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p.3 #1 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

You can also download the LightZone demo which reads these RAW files.

May 26, 2007 at 03:45 PM

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p.3 #2 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

It would appear that the three user-customizable Custom Function Settings are still not able to be re-named, unfortunately. Seems ridiculous that we continue to have to remember that Set #1 is for General, Set #2 is for Sports, etc... Guess I'm getting old. Page 180

I looked for that too. The My Menu functionality is nice however.

The "charge the battery the day before use" language is strange. Does this mean the battery charger can't maintain a battery near 100%?

May 26, 2007 at 04:19 PM

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p.3 #3 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Make sure you have the Camera Raw updated to the latest version for Photoshop CS2. BTW: Anyone using Linux can use F-Spot. I installed the latest viewer and it works just fine for .CS2!!

Robert

Hammerli wrote:
I removed the linked file in my previous post as I can only put one file up at a time on Charter's server. HERE is an indoor picture I took this evening; again AWB and Evaluative Metering just as it is out of the camera. I have the other RAW file and some others, but no way to host several at once. If anyone has any suggestions send me a PM and I can put them up elsewhere. At around 14MB per RAW file, it would take more server space than I am allocated.

Paolo Pena wrote:
couldnt open it on PhotoShop CS2, Preview or LiveQuartz on my Mac.

May 26, 2007 at 05:08 PM

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p.3 #4 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

beewee wrote:
I've uploaded one of Hammerli's 1D3 raw files here

I have up to 900MB on a high bandwidth server so if anyone wants to posts their images, I can host them for you. Just PM me.

I'm adding a copy of the 1D3 manual on the above link. I'll be uploading more raw files and/or images as i get them from people.

May 26, 2007 at 05:19 PM

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p.3 #5 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

[C.Fn II-1: Long exposure Noise Reduction] During the noise reduction process, shooting is possible... With Setting 1 and 2, after the picture is taken, the noise reduction process may take the same amount of time as the exposure. During the noise reduction, shooting is still possible as long as the maximum burst indicator in the viewfinder is "1" or more. Page 163 This is interesting, as it may contradict previous implementations, though I'm not sure. I could swear I read about (and have witnessed) the same behavior on my 1Ds, though I have also read that shooting was not possible during noise reduction (for previous 1-Series cameras).

Shooting was possible while it applied NR to a previous file with the mkII's,

May 26, 2007 at 05:31 PM

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p.3 #6 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Jeff wrote:
Some interesting observations from the MkIII User Manual [I apologize in advance if some of this is not unique to the MkIII, but I'm coming from a 1Ds (MkI)]:

Tips for Using the Battery and Charger: When not using the camera, remove the battery... [additional]... Storing the battery after it is fully charged can lower the battery's performance. Not sure if this applied to the original 1-Series batteries, but I think it's news to me (i.e. new for Li-Ion). Page 27

This looks like a standard Li-Ion battery warning. However, the only way that makes sense to me for storing one spare battery is to store it fully charged. Otherwise there is no point in having a spare battery at all. Of course, if I would occasionally need multiple spare batteries, then I might choose to follow the recommended procedure and only charge them just before the use.

May 26, 2007 at 05:40 PM

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!When the EF 70-200/2.8L USM is used with an extender, use the center AF point only. The other AF points may cause a focusing error. Page 85 There are additional notes for 24mm and 28mm lenses. This is curious, and I hope this doesn't apply to the IS version of the 70-200/2.8L.

I've had no issues with the IS version of the 70-200 using several AF points. I don't have either of the other two lenses mentioned, but I did find it odd the outer focusing points are not useable with those two lenses.

Jeff wrote:
re: Automatic Sensor Cleaning: Even if you repeat the sensor cleaning multiple times, the result will not improve that much. Sounds like common sense to me.

Note that after cleaning once, the cleaning routine is automatically disabled temporarily. Page 132

The "Cleaning now" the manual speaks of is the functionality of selecting manual cleaning. However if the camera is set in the auto mode, the camera will repeatedly go through the cycle. For instance if one turns on the camera, the sensor cleaning begins automatically(if set that way), and then if I wait 1 second and turn the camera off, the sensor cleaning at power off does not occur. However if I wait 2 seconds and power off the sensor will go through the second power off cleaning. This obviously isn't something I would normally do but in the interest of testing it looks like the "temporary disabling" is quite temporary.

Jeff wrote:
[C.Fn II-1: Long exposure Noise Reduction] During the noise reduction process, shooting is possible... With Setting 1 and 2, after the picture is taken, the noise reduction process may take the same amount of time as the exposure. During the noise reduction, shooting is still possible as long as the maximum burst indicator in the viewfinder is "1" or more. Page 163 This is interesting, as it may contradict previous implementations, though I'm not sure. I could swear I read about (and have witnessed) the same behavior on my 1Ds, though I have also read that shooting was not possible during noise reduction (for previous 1-Series cameras).

I thought this was due to dark frame comparison but I could be wrong as I haven't used that functionality, but it seems to me that was the case in previous models.

May 26, 2007 at 05:55 PM

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p.3 #8 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

>> Storing the battery after it is fully charged can lower the battery's performance...

> This looks like a standard Li-Ion battery warning.

Lithium Ion batteries degrade steadily and permanently over time whether you use them or not. At 40% charge this degradation occurs most slowly, so if you are going to store a Li-ion battery and not use it for a while, charge it to 40%. You may notice when you buy a laptop or other Li-ion device that it arives with about 40% charge. That's how they store them since they don't know the length of the delivery cycle. Obviously, before you use it you will want to charge it up to full capacity.

May 26, 2007 at 06:03 PM

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p.3 #9 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

[C.FnIII -10 Switch to Registered AF point] p.171 "You can switch to the registered AF point with the <*>.....By Pressing the <*>, you can switch to the registered AF point. Press the button again to return to the original AF point "
This seems awkward,especially in vertical format shooting !!
MKII allowed a return to the original AF point by simply releasing the Assist button using C.Fn 18-2,,
Is there a workaround,,switching buttons??,,,that i'm not aware of for the MKIII

May 26, 2007 at 06:40 PM

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decoy wrote:
[C.FnIII -10 Switch to Registered AF point] p.171 "You can switch to the registered AF point with the <*>.....By Pressing the <*>, you can switch to the registered AF point. Press the button again to return to the original AF point "
This seems awkward,especially in vertical format shooting !!
MKII allowed a return to the original AF point by simply releasing the Assist button using C.Fn 18-2,,
Is there a workaround,,switching buttons??,,,that i'm not aware of for the MKIII

I can't find a way to set it up so that I can switch to a registered point while in vertical orientation. I never used the AF-on functionality on previous models, but I did always have it so I could go to center AF with that button. Canon really gave us no options for what the AF-on button can be set to do, which means it is a useless button for me. You can switch the AF-on and * button's functions, but that doesn't help as far as adding a function other than AF-on.

May 26, 2007 at 07:04 PM

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p.3 #11 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

I must be missing something here!!
Why would canon remove the funtionality of the Assist button and the AF point registration function...It was an outstanding feature in AI Servo Mode to have the Assist button set for AFPS and the * button set for center focus...the buttons are side/side and switching was a dream,,,now what?? there must be something i'm overlooking..

May 26, 2007 at 07:43 PM

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p.3 #12 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

I just home and charged the battery all the way. (I called ahead and had the shop charge the battery while I drove the 45 min. trip)

This is my first ever 1 series so I can't compare the weight, feel, etc since I have never used and older version. Al I can say is this camera is amazing!

I was looking at ultra wide zooms since i love my 10-22 on my 20d's. I wanted something that I could use on both. I tried both the Sigma 10-20 and the Tokina 12-24. Here are the results from shooting a lightbox in the store. Ignore the dust on the lightbox and the velcro in the Tokina shot

Tokina at 12mm (holy vignetting, Batman!)

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Sigma at 10mm

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I just did a quick test at ISO 6400. I went in to the darkest room of the house and shot one of the spare dumsets. 1/50 5.6 14mm

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Full size can be found below
www.matthewlofton.com/albums/1dmk3/6400_full.jpg][/url]

May 26, 2007 at 08:01 PM

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p.3 #13 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

If anybody has requests, let me know and I'll try to fulfill them.

May 26, 2007 at 08:08 PM

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p.3 #14 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

has anyone tried playing with the File name "+ image size" setting? i don't see an explanation of it in the manual (page 77). when selected, i cannot play back an image shot in RAW+JPEG although RAW is fine. image seems to be recorded on the card.

the File name + image size setting can be accessed in "File name setting" >
File name". someone please try this.

okay, i think the reason it does not play back is because the file written to the card does not have the three number prefix. i think this could be a bug.

Edited by apoh on May 26, 2007 at 08:31 PM GMT (Reason: added more info.)

Edited by apoh on May 26, 2007 at 08:31 PM GMT

May 26, 2007 at 08:22 PM

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p.3 #15 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

"and shot one of the spare dumsets. 1/50 5.6 14mm"

How many drumsets you got in your home? 'One of the spares' - you got more than two drumsets?

May 26, 2007 at 08:28 PM

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p.3 #16 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

apoh wrote:
has anyone tried playing with the File name "+ image size" setting? i don't see an explanation of it in the manual (page 77). when selected, i cannot play back an image shot in RAW+JPEG although RAW is fine. image seems to be recorded on the card.

the File name + image size setting can be accessed in "File name setting" >
File name". someone please try this.

okay, i think the reason it does not play back is because the file written to the card does not have the three number prefix. i think this could be a bug.

Edited by apoh on May 26, 2007 at 08:31 PM GMT (Reason: added more info.)

Edited by apoh on May 26, 2007 at 08:31 PM GMT

Since the initial delivery is at firmware 1.0.8, I suspect there are a few bugs to find. It took 'em 8 release candidates to get it out the door. The good news is that there may be many cameras built just waiting for software and packaging.

May 26, 2007 at 08:42 PM

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p.3 #17 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

apoh wrote:
has anyone tried playing with the File name "+ image size" setting? i don't see an explanation of it in the manual (page 77). when selected, i cannot play back an image shot in RAW+JPEG although RAW is fine. image seems to be recorded on the card.

the File name + image size setting can be accessed in "File name setting" >
File name". someone please try this.

okay, i think the reason it does not play back is because the file written to the card does not have the three number prefix. i think this could be a bug.

Edited by apoh on May 26, 2007 at 08:31 PM GMT (Reason: added more info.)

Edited by apoh on May 26, 2007 at 08:31 PM GMT

Are you recording to the same card or one format to each card?

May 26, 2007 at 08:42 PM

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p.3 #18 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Picked mine up today - its everything they hyped about and more. Weighs about the same as my old D2X - really nice.

Noticed lots of new Cf and settings. Wonder how long it will take before a "recommended" list is published and made downloadable (like SI has for the 1D2/N.

Got my 1D2's Really Right Stuff mounting plate to fit (not the "L" Plate, the straight one), but I'm sure they will do some tweaking on one for the 1DIII.

Has anyone played with the AF micro adjustments for different lenses yet? I suppose someone will come up with a target to do this. Seems like a strip of wood with nails 1 inch apart and the middle one painted red or something, Placing the strip at a 45 deg angle to the lens plane should work.

I'm glad I have the long weekend to really dig into this beast!

May 26, 2007 at 08:45 PM

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p.3 #19 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

602crew wrote:
If anybody has requests, let me know and I'll try to fulfill them.

Some nice normal shots would be greatly appreciated unless I am the only one left in the world that doesn't only shoot at 3200 or higher. Also some actual feedback as to impressions about the camera would be apprecated as well. How is the AF? How is the weight and balance? Is the new control layout a plus or a minus? Are you happy that you spent $4500 on it or would it have been better spent on wine, women and song? Things like that.

May 26, 2007 at 09:00 PM

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p.3 #20 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Hrow wrote:
Some nice normal shots would be greatly appreciated unless I am the only one left in the world that doesn't only shoot at 3200 or higher.

I think the chances of image quality at ISOs under 800 being much better (or worse) is pretty low. That's why people want to see images at ISO 800, 1600, 3200, 6400.

May 26, 2007 at 09:33 PM

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p.3 #21 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Hammerli wrote:

Are you recording to the same card or one format to each card?

recording to the same card. and the Record func. is set to Standard

May 26, 2007 at 09:53 PM

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p.3 #22 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

I've uploaded several more of Hammerli's 1D3 raw files here

May 26, 2007 at 10:36 PM

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p.3 #23 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Jeff wrote:
I'm most curious about the Highlight Tone Priority setting in relation to DR (compared to the results with a previous 1-Series body), and the AI Servo focus tracking ability for shooting sports.

Sounds to me like it simply pushes more of the levels of dynamic range into the highlights, and out of the shadows.

So, you get better tonal gradation in the highlights at the expense of extra noise in the shadows.

May 26, 2007 at 10:37 PM

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p.3 #24 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

DavidP wrote:
Jeff wrote:
I'm most curious about the Highlight Tone Priority setting in relation to DR (compared to the results with a previous 1-Series body), and the AI Servo focus tracking ability for shooting sports.

Sounds to me like it simply pushes more of the levels of dynamic range into the highlights, and out of the shadows.

So, you get better tonal gradation in the highlights at the expense of extra noise in the shadows.

But does it work and if so, is the trade off worth it?

May 26, 2007 at 11:20 PM

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p.3 #25 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body

Hrow wrote:
Some nice normal shots would be greatly appreciated unless I am the only one left in the world that doesn't only shoot at 3200 or higher. Also some actual feedback as to impressions about the camera would be apprecated as well. How is the AF? How is the weight and balance? Is the new control layout a plus or a minus? Are you happy that you spent $4500 on it or would it have been better spent on wine, women and song? Things like that.

There are a couple of "semi-normal" shots HERE which member Beewee was kind enough to host for me. The first two are high ISO, the second two are shots I took indoors today with the 580EXII bounced off the ceiling. It's been raining all day and so again the subject matter isn't the best, but at least there is some color in them. All shots done at AWB and Evaluative metering.

May 26, 2007 at 11:24 PM


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