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p.3 #1 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Would it be possible to add a request thread for the new Canon 1DIII owners?

I would love to see what this camera can do in the sharpness department. Stopped down (f.8/11), sharp lens like the 35 or 135 L, tripod mounted, 100iso, detailed subject in front of the camera. Basically anything that can show optimal sharpness.

I would also love to see how it deals with long exposure noise, examples shot at 100iso, nightime, roughly around 30 or 60sec would be great!!

Congrats to everyone who got it so far :-)




May 26, 2007 at 05:14 AM
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p.3 #2 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


I was unable to open after trying multiple progras?


May 26, 2007 at 05:41 AM
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p.3 #3 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Download latest Canon dpp ver 3.0, need an original version on computer. This is the latest version and certainly opens the 1D mark3 files if the files are saved on your computer


May 26, 2007 at 06:13 AM
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p.3 #4 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


You will need to download the 1DmkIII codec from canon http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0026049.asp this is the site from the UK

Regards Adrian



May 26, 2007 at 06:16 AM
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p.3 #5 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


How about posting a high res jpeg so everone can at least have a look?


May 26, 2007 at 07:35 AM
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p.3 #6 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


TomRA wrote:
Would it be possible to add a request thread for the new Canon 1DIII owners?

I would love to see what this camera can do in the sharpness department. Stopped down (f.8/11), sharp lens like the 35 or 135 L, tripod mounted, 100iso, detailed subject in front of the camera. Basically anything that can show optimal sharpness.

I would also love to see how it deals with long exposure noise, examples shot at 100iso, nightime, roughly around 30 or 60sec would be great!!

Congrats to everyone who got it so far :-)



When I'm done with my coffee I was planning to do this: using 70-200 f4 IS, 1d3 100mm f11, 5D 130mm f11. I'll pm beewee and see if he'll host a couple raw files.



May 26, 2007 at 07:38 AM
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p.3 #7 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Can someone post an sRAW file? I'm very curious about this new format.

Thanks,
Steve



May 26, 2007 at 07:41 AM
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p.3 #8 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


The English language Mark III manual is available at this link, or at least was when I downloaded it this morning.

Nill
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May 26, 2007 at 08:17 AM
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Roland W wrote:
I have just checked the Really Right Stuff B57-L D bracket that is the camera L bracket for the 1D Mk II, and it does not fit the 1DMk III. There was an early report from a show that indicated it would fit, but it does not. The mounting screw is in a different location, and the new Mk III body is also slightly wider from front to back. I will now need to wait while RSS works its magic. I also wonder if they will try to accomodate the wireless adapter with an L bracket, which will be
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Thanks, Roland - that may have been an initial impression I reported from PMA, guess I'll go ahead and sell my 1D2 L bracket now.



May 26, 2007 at 09:53 AM
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p.3 #10 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


ISO 3200 files

To make high ISO comparisons between this camera and others, I believe it's been an error to show 1DIII files with High ISO Noise Reduction turned off. Other cameras/brands don't really give this option. I believe this is principally to avoid web comparisons of really noisy files.

By allowing this function to be turned off, the camera removes a processing step and the buffer empties quickly. The manual says that burst depth is significantly reduced with this function on.

There a lot more thought in this camera about producing high quality jpegs that don't need further processing. Shooting very high quality 3200 jpegs straight out of the camera is not a big deal. Turn NR on, set the appropriate contrast level. Set sharpening appropriate for final use and go. The ISO 3200 images are essentially noise free and natural with NR on. The chroma noise is all but gone, there a little luminosity noise at 100% view.

When shooting raw, there's no reason to ask the camera to take the NR burden. DPP probably runs similar algorithms, and may even do it better. Canon allows us to see how good the High ISO files look before post noise processing. That's not available on "the other brand".

NR turned off also explains the disparity between the first reviewers who got preproduction cameras and the first photos posted.

So if the first comparison were a bit disappointing, there was a reason why.

And then there's the perfectly usable 6400 files....



May 26, 2007 at 10:35 AM
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p.3 #11 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


You can also download the LightZone demo which reads these RAW files.


May 26, 2007 at 10:45 AM
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It would appear that the three user-customizable Custom Function Settings are still not able to be re-named, unfortunately. Seems ridiculous that we continue to have to remember that Set #1 is for General, Set #2 is for Sports, etc... Guess I'm getting old. Page 180

I looked for that too. The My Menu functionality is nice however.

The "charge the battery the day before use" language is strange. Does this mean the battery charger can't maintain a battery near 100%?



May 26, 2007 at 11:19 AM
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p.3 #13 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Make sure you have the Camera Raw updated to the latest version for Photoshop CS2. BTW: Anyone using Linux can use F-Spot. I installed the latest viewer and it works just fine for .CS2!!

Robert


Hammerli wrote:
I removed the linked file in my previous post as I can only put one file up at a time on Charter's server. HERE is an indoor picture I took this evening; again AWB and Evaluative Metering just as it is out of the camera. I have the other RAW file and some others, but no way to host several at once. If anyone has any suggestions send me a PM and I can put them up elsewhere. At around 14MB per RAW file, it would take more server space than I am allocated.


Paolo Pena wrote:
couldnt open it on PhotoShop CS2, Preview or LiveQuartz on my Mac.




May 26, 2007 at 12:08 PM
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p.3 #14 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


beewee wrote:
I've uploaded one of Hammerli's 1D3 raw files here

I have up to 900MB on a high bandwidth server so if anyone wants to posts their images, I can host them for you. Just PM me.


I'm adding a copy of the 1D3 manual on the above link. I'll be uploading more raw files and/or images as i get them from people.



May 26, 2007 at 12:19 PM
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[C.Fn II-1: Long exposure Noise Reduction] During the noise reduction process, shooting is possible... With Setting 1 and 2, after the picture is taken, the noise reduction process may take the same amount of time as the exposure. During the noise reduction, shooting is still possible as long as the maximum burst indicator in the viewfinder is "1" or more. Page 163 This is interesting, as it may contradict previous implementations, though I'm not sure. I could swear I read about (and have witnessed) the same behavior on my 1Ds, though I have also read that shooting was not possible during noise reduction (for previous 1-Series cameras).


Shooting was possible while it applied NR to a previous file with the mkII's,



May 26, 2007 at 12:31 PM
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Jeff wrote:
Some interesting observations from the MkIII User Manual [I apologize in advance if some of this is not unique to the MkIII, but I'm coming from a 1Ds (MkI)]:

Not sure if this applied to the original 1-Series batteries, but I think it's news to me (i.e. new for Li-Ion). Page 27


This looks like a standard Li-Ion battery warning. However, the only way that makes sense to me for storing one spare battery is to store it fully charged. Otherwise there is no point in having a spare battery at all. Of course, if I would occasionally need multiple spare batteries, then I might choose to follow the recommended procedure and only charge them just before the use.



May 26, 2007 at 12:40 PM
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Jeff wrote:
Page 85 There are additional notes for 24mm and 28mm lenses. This is curious, and I hope this doesn't apply to the IS version of the 70-200/2.8L.


I've had no issues with the IS version of the 70-200 using several AF points. I don't have either of the other two lenses mentioned, but I did find it odd the outer focusing points are not useable with those two lenses.

Jeff wrote:
Sounds like common sense to me. Note that after cleaning once, the cleaning routine is automatically disabled temporarily. Page 132


The "Cleaning now" the manual speaks of is the functionality of selecting manual cleaning. However if the camera is set in the auto mode, the camera will repeatedly go through the cycle. For instance if one turns on the camera, the sensor cleaning begins automatically(if set that way), and then if I wait 1 second and turn the camera off, the sensor cleaning at power off does not occur. However if I wait 2 seconds and power off the sensor will go through the second power off cleaning. This obviously isn't something I would normally do but in the interest of testing it looks like the "temporary disabling" is quite temporary.

Jeff wrote:
Page 163 This is interesting, as it may contradict previous implementations, though I'm not sure. I could swear I read about (and have witnessed) the same behavior on my 1Ds, though I have also read that shooting was not possible during noise reduction (for previous 1-Series cameras).


I thought this was due to dark frame comparison but I could be wrong as I haven't used that functionality, but it seems to me that was the case in previous models.




May 26, 2007 at 12:55 PM
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>> Storing the battery after it is fully charged can lower the battery's performance...

> This looks like a standard Li-Ion battery warning.


Lithium Ion batteries degrade steadily and permanently over time whether you use them or not. At 40% charge this degradation occurs most slowly, so if you are going to store a Li-ion battery and not use it for a while, charge it to 40%. You may notice when you buy a laptop or other Li-ion device that it arives with about 40% charge. That's how they store them since they don't know the length of the delivery cycle. Obviously, before you use it you will want to charge it up to full capacity.



May 26, 2007 at 01:03 PM
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p.3 #19 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


[C.FnIII -10 Switch to Registered AF point] p.171 "You can switch to the registered AF point with the <*>.....By Pressing the <*>, you can switch to the registered AF point. Press the button again to return to the original AF point "
This seems awkward,especially in vertical format shooting !!
MKII allowed a return to the original AF point by simply releasing the Assist button using C.Fn 18-2,,
Is there a workaround,,switching buttons??,,,that i'm not aware of for the MKIII



May 26, 2007 at 01:40 PM
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decoy wrote:
[C.FnIII -10 Switch to Registered AF point] p.171 "You can switch to the registered AF point with the <*>.....By Pressing the <*>, you can switch to the registered AF point. Press the button again to return to the original AF point "
This seems awkward,especially in vertical format shooting !!
MKII allowed a return to the original AF point by simply releasing the Assist button using C.Fn 18-2,,
Is there a workaround,,switching buttons??,,,that i'm not aware of for the MKIII


I can't find a way to set it up so that I can switch to a registered point while in vertical orientation. I never used the AF-on functionality on previous models, but I did always have it so I could go to center AF with that button. Canon really gave us no options for what the AF-on button can be set to do, which means it is a useless button for me. You can switch the AF-on and * button's functions, but that doesn't help as far as adding a function other than AF-on.



May 26, 2007 at 02:04 PM
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