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p.2 #1 · will the markIII improve your work??

Darryn,

Great pictures, and your thoughts are probably correct. Why improve on something that doesn't really need improving?

As far as your pictures, is that last one taken on the northern beaches of Oahu? Seems I remember a setting just like that one when the wife & I were there last summer, but the water wasn't green. Very nice scene.

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Feb 25, 2007 at 11:26 PM

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p.2 #2 · will the markIII improve your work??

Buying new runners get me out running... getting a new lens get me out trying new things. It's no different with a new body. You can discuss if that's what photograpy is all about but it does work for me. As another poster said... it depends on where you are coming from and may I add where you hope to be going. I am changing my tune about 1D3. Having shot with the D60 and 20D over the past 4 1/2 years I've have often missed shots. Mind you I also have many keepers. The most trying job for me every year is covering cross country ski races in all kinds of weather. Last year I then borrowed a 1D Mark II and I absolutely had more in focus shots. The 8 fps for sure helped me getting the racers in that perfect position.

going from a 1.6x to 1.3x I would be looking forward to getting a wider 16-35

On the other end ideally I would love to add a 300 2.8L but I think I better slow down a bit.

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Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27 PM

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p.2 #3 · will the markIII improve your work??

For me the dilemma is whether to upgrade to a cheaper mkII or go big and get the mkiii. I shot with a 1D for 3 years and decided to sell it last fall as I thought I wouldn't be shooting as much sports this past winter and bought a 20D (wanted something smaller as well). As it turns out I'm shooting as much sports as ever and cursing the 20D - the AF, especially in poor light, is miserable in comparison to the 1D. So its upgrade time.

The question is relevant in the context of would spending an extra $2,000 or more for the mk3 over the mk2 get me enough better images to justify the delta. For sure either will be a huge improvement over the 20D. I can about buy a 5D for the difference. So its a tough choice.

For shooting indoors the better low light AF and extra ISO stop are the big feature chnages that would improve my work. Many of the ice riunks I shoot in I can get perhaps 1/320 at f2.8 at ISO1600 - marginal. So both are significant.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 01:08 AM

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p.2 #4 · will the markIII improve your work??

Using quick reply on the first page, without seeing the probable correct choices later in the post, I'll guess D30; 1D; IIn; 20D

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Feb 26, 2007 at 01:23 AM

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p.2 #5 · will the markIII improve your work??

Ansel Adams didn't need a Mark III did he?

Let's face it: There is nothing wrong with being a gear-head and all, but it's the Indian, not the arrow. If you've seen Robert Clark's photos taken with a Sony cell phone vs. some IIN photos on here and other photos you'll know...it's the Indian, not the arrow. Photography is about seeing/seeing things in ways no one else does, and reacting to those with the tools you have. Learn the tools you have, both strengths and weaknesses, and use both to your advantage. Will a $4000 new body HELP? For some...probably. But for others? They can take beautiful photos with a Disposable P&S.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 02:17 AM

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p.2 #6 · will the markIII improve your work??

Anyone that honestly thinks a more expensive or different camera will improve thier work hasn't spent nearly enough time as a photographer...learn and apply basic photography skills and you can be really good or great with any camera.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 02:21 AM

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p.2 #7 · will the markIII improve your work??

Your income will triple if you get the new camera. If you buy a new lens too, then you may find that you sell so many shots you'll have to hire two new assistants to take orders.

Your wife will be so happy with these things she'll tell you she wants you to buy 3 cameras. It's probably time for you to wake up now.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 02:24 AM

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p.2 #8 · will the markIII improve your work??

"Ansel Adams didn't need a Mark III did he?"

No, he sure didn't....., but then again, I don't recall him doing weddings, fashion, news, sports, event or contemporary Postmodern photography either.

"If you've seen Robert Clark's photos taken with a Sony cell phone vs. some IIN photos on here and other photos you'll know...it's the Indian, not the arrow."

He shoots weddings, sports, magazine layouts, fashion and events with a cell phone?
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"Anyone that honestly thinks a more expensive or different camera will improve thier work hasn't spent nearly enough time as a photographer...learn and apply basic photography skills and you can be really good or great with any camera."

This is a typical refrain of someone who "thinks" they have a clue. Those who "push" their gear, know how untrue the above is but it sure sounds, on it's face, to be profound.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 02:52 AM

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p.2 #9 · will the markIII improve your work??

last shot is from Krabi in Thailand, so many rocks there they all start to look the same after a while??

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Feb 26, 2007 at 03:13 AM

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p.2 #10 · will the markIII improve your work??

BeeMan458 wrote:
"Ansel Adams didn't need a Mark III did he?"

No, he sure didn't....., but then again, I don't recall him doing weddings, fashion, news, sports, event or contemporary Postmodern photography either.

"If you've seen Robert Clark's photos taken with a Sony cell phone vs. some IIN photos on here and other photos you'll know...it's the Indian, not the arrow."

He shoots weddings, sports, magazine layouts, fashion and events with a cell phone?
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"Anyone that honestly thinks a more expensive or different camera will improve thier work hasn't spent nearly enough time as a photographer...learn and apply basic photography skills and you can be really good or great with any camera."

This is a typical refrain of someone who "thinks" they have a clue. Those who "push" their gear, know how untrue the above is but it sure sounds, on it's face, to be profound.

Thank you Thomas for inserting some reality. If I recall correctly, most of Adams's most famous shots were with an 8x10 view camera, not a pinhole camera or a Brownie. Could he have taken a decent picture with either? Probably. The fact that he choose not to shows that he had a lot more sense than those who claim that he would have achieved the same status if he had. Come on guys, get real. You can shoot a charging lion with a view camera and get a great image but that doesn't mean that it is a good f*&^ing idea.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 03:24 AM

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p.2 #11 · will the markIII improve your work??

I kinda went there in my mind as I saw this cartoon of Ansel in my head, running from a bear, 8X10 view and legs over the shoulder and the cartoon balloon reading. "Got the shot" with brim hat flying off his head.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 03:31 AM

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p.2 #12 · will the markIII improve your work??

I totally disagree.
1st off you must have interesting subject and composition with out that nothing matters… but 2nd great equipment always, always helps. I do art for a living and do photography as a hobby, if I was a pro (and not so cheap) I would be all over this camera. Darryn I think the Live Screen would help you. I most also say the car shot ROCKS, as good as it gets!!!!

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Feb 26, 2007 at 05:17 AM

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p.2 #13 · will the markIII improve your work??

D30, 1D, 1DIIN, 20D.
Of course, we can't really tell from these small versions, and I'm sure even with full sized files it would be tough except for the smaller size of the pics from the older bodies.

All the points about the primacy of photographic skill and artistic vision are valid, but I'm still with Thomas (BeeMan) and others about the value of having the best tools you can get for the job you're trying to do.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 05:41 AM

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p.2 #14 · will the markIII improve your work??

why would anyone waste a second of his time on this crazy forum unless he thought the gear made a big difference? everyone here believes that the artistic side is very important. both aspects matter.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 06:00 AM

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p.2 #15 · will the markIII improve your work??

I own the cameras in my sig line. And I used to have SONY F505V. My personal best collection are made from the photos from all of them. It seems that what matters is not the camera but my sincere effort to get a good shot.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 06:11 AM

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p.2 #16 · will the markIII improve your work??

For the really good photographers any camera will do. It's seeing the picture and finding the light and angle to take it that really counts.

For the rest of us.... well, maybe a better camera will help in some situations, particularly for action shots etc.

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Feb 26, 2007 at 04:22 PM

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p.2 #17 · will the markIII improve your work??

why do we need to associate buying or admiring a new digital toy with taking good pictures?

if you ae making good money with what you have, why waste the extra buying the 1D3?

many buyers like me never take a good pictures, just want to get the latest and greatest, why not? some people wasting most of their time trying to figure out how to bring their money to the grave with them, good?

if only a fraction of those who think 1D3 will improve their pictures suddenly wake up and give up upgrading, you will not get your current dslrs "that" cheap

Feb 26, 2007 at 05:26 PM


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