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Sorry, but PMA is over. Canon released everything they're going to release. Sad, but I think I'd wait until summer/fall before you hear anything new, and even that's not guaranteed.

If the link I read was accurate (can't remember) Canon has said something to the effect that November is when they'll probably release a 1Ds upgrade, but didn't mention any others IIRC.

Mar 08, 2007 at 01:21 PM
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Tbartick- Thanks, when I saw my complete post in yours I thought you were going to blast me!

Yakim- Yes, the 70-200/4LIS is a great lens with a price to match. If you really need a IS tele that is small, it is a compeling reason.

Caleb- The 5D is a great camera and if I stay with Canon I may get one when the prices drop. Canon works on aggregate demand, not Anselwannab demand I know . My point was that the FF sensor is the main distinguisher or competitive advantage of Canon and it is not really aimed at the meat of the market. It is like the corvette at Chevy dealers. It may draw people in, make them feel better about the brand, but they sold a lot more chevetttes than corvettes. When I got the 20D Canon seemed to have everyone faded. They made their own sensors, had way more IS/VR lenses. Now it just aint there.

The 28-105IS USM is a great lens, on a FF camera, but with the eq of a 45mm lens at the wide end on a 1.6x sensor, they are going othave to buy a 10-22 or 17-40 soon.

I have a feeling that with crop sensors being the main product, they may have a lot of 28-105s sitting around, or at least don't see much of a future for it as a starter lens.

Mark

Mar 08, 2007 at 01:32 PM
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PrecisionPhoto wrote:
I can't find where some have discussed the previous announcement dates of the previous 1Ds release dates?



http://photography-on-the.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=153122&stc=1&d=1173328311

Mar 08, 2007 at 03:51 PM
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Floor opens at 10:30AM PST. News should start after that.

Mar 08, 2007 at 05:38 PM
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Sony has pre-announced two new DSLRs positioned above the Alpha. They don't even have names yet or sensor sizes stated, but one hints at something larger because it claims an enlarged image processor chip. Also three new zooms coming.


Edited by Monito on Mar 08, 2007 at 10:35 AM GMT

Mar 08, 2007 at 06:33 PM
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What about the 645D!!!!?

Mar 08, 2007 at 06:34 PM
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PMA 07 Live Blog: Sony Announces Expansions to Alpha DSLR Line



Mar 08, 2007 at 06:39 PM
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Brent Ward wrote:
What about the 645D!!!!?


huh?.....

Mar 08, 2007 at 06:44 PM
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I really thought Canon would announce a few more things, but what do I know.

Did anyone see the Sigma 200-500 f2.8 lens?! It is one HUUGE monster!

Mar 08, 2007 at 06:48 PM
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wow.... look at all those P&S cameras... and that nice big ole 1DMIII

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2007/Canon/


Mar 08, 2007 at 06:54 PM
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2007/Canon/

Mar 08, 2007 at 06:57 PM
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Sigma also added OS to its 18-200. Still curious why Canon has not introduced a competitor in this range.

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/18_200_f35_63_dc_os.htm

Mar 08, 2007 at 07:02 PM
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http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/pma07.shtml

Mar 08, 2007 at 07:09 PM
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I'm sadly disappointed by Canon. I thought for sure they would be a 40D. I have been waiting to sell my 20D to see what came out. I've been waiting since October so I'm going to go ahead and get a 30D. Is it Ironic that Nikon only came out with a few things also?? *yawn* for both Canon and Nikon

Mar 08, 2007 at 07:41 PM
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did anyone else catch the shot of the sony 'pro body' with the stopped down lens cleverly obfuscating the mirror?

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagship-first-pics-242663.php

Mar 08, 2007 at 07:48 PM
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Well PMA is still not over yet right? Does Canon ever announce products a day or two into the show?

I'm glad that they didnt release a 5Dmk2! That'd be a shame since I just purchased my 5D a few months ago

Mar 08, 2007 at 07:48 PM
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I believe that they would announce anything/everything they had once the show opens. Oh well. I've actually been sorry I switched from Nikon to Canon. The only reason I did was that I wasnt happy with the D1x and the noise/weight and a few other things. The 20D had better qualities but quite honestly now after owning the 20D for two years I think the D1x was a better camera. They were only rumours of a D2x in Sept 2004 and I knew I wouldnt be able to afford one if and when it did come out. I have contemplated going back but I dont think I could afford to do it now if ever

Mar 08, 2007 at 08:18 PM
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PMA is over for Canon announcements ...in retrospect, buying the XTi last September instead of waiting for the 40D appears to have been a good call. I'm disappointed ... I have been holding off on about eight purchases for months waiting to see new EF-S, EF lenses and 40D ... plus many other items.

Mar 08, 2007 at 09:01 PM
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Interestingly, nothing from Epson.

They will need to hit one out of the park to regain market share.



Mar 08, 2007 at 09:17 PM
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For those tempted to jump ship over to Nikon, I say "patience grasshoppers". I too am disappointed in having to wait for a 40D or 5D mk II, but jeez, it's only another 8 or 9 months until these upgrades are likely to be announced.

If I understand correctly, the typical Canon product cycle is around 18 months (sometimes longer), whereas Nikon users often wait 2 to 3 years for upgrades. For example, how long wait was it between D100 and D200? I'm pretty sure it was more than 18 months.

I can picture someone jumping over to Nikon for the D200 -- a great camera for sure -- but in 9 months or so I suspect Canon will announce the 40D and/or 5D mk II with compelling new features that will make us all very happy, except for the new D200 owner who have to wait another two years for the D300.

I'm not trying to dis Nikon or Nikon owners. I just think it's premature to give up on Canon. I think our patience will be rewarded. So hang in there. Enjoy what you have now. And dream on.



Mar 08, 2007 at 09:20 PM
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Canon can't say they are leaders in the technology and at the same time scratch their heads when people complain about the lack of new technology.

That 40D better be something special. Rumors have it that Canon might have a FOveon type sensor in the works for the 1DsIII and maybe the 40D.

I've always seen a parallelism between the 1Ds &1D line and the 5D & x0D line (N's and I, II, III aside). The 5D is a baby 1Ds interation, and the 20D is a baby 1D. Maybe they come out with a new sensor technology with the 1DsIII and the 20D which makes its way to the 5D successor later.

If this is the year of great things for the EOS line, it is hard to believe that taking away an "n" and adding an "I" to the 1DIIn is what they are going to do with PMA show.

To beat the 200D, the 40D is going to have to be 14MP with weather sealing, eye control and some e-goodies to make Canon compelling again. The 20D had the D100 faded, that is what I expect from someone that says they are the markets technology leader.

Mark

Mar 08, 2007 at 10:53 PM
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dinoadventures wrote:
did anyone else catch the shot of the sony 'pro body' with the stopped down lens cleverly obfuscating the mirror?

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagship-first-pics-242663.php


Am I the only one thinking sony's DSLR designers should be tarred and feathered? :worried:
I know, it is a camera - a tool, not a design object but still...
Hm, haven't got used to that sony writing on DSLR bodies yet, it's kind of out of place

However, I'm interested what they will release, since they claim oh so big gains of market share in the future...

Mar 08, 2007 at 11:16 PM
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Hm, haven't got used to that sony writing on DSLR bodies yet, it's kind of out of place

Sony is an important player in professional broadcast quality video market, competing directly with Canon. They want to be a player in the photomarket as well and not just a gadget manufacturer. So the Cybershot line had to be extended with some pro and semi products. This is good for the brand imago. You can be sure there was a thought behind the take over of Konica Minolta and licensing of Carl Zeiss brand. We'll definitely see more interesting products from Sony in the future.

Peter

Mar 08, 2007 at 11:28 PM
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anselwannab wrote:
Canon can't say they are leaders in the technology and at the same time scratch their heads when people complain about the lack of new technology.
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To beat the 200D, the 40D is going to have to be 14MP with weather sealing, eye control and some e-goodies to make Canon compelling again. ...

Mark


I think you're hoping for too much. IMO, the 40D will be a logical extension of the 30D, think XT -> XTi. The camera that will compete feature-wise with the D200, except for price, will be the reputed 3D, a stripped down 5D.

Mar 09, 2007 at 12:29 AM
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Heres some news about the new Sony flagship d/SLR:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagship-first-pics-242663.php

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/breaking-pma-07-live-blog-sony-announces-expansions-to-alpha-dslr-line-242638.php

Mar 09, 2007 at 01:20 AM

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