Rubber Soul wrote:
If we ever see a EOS 40D weather sealed to compete with the D200 and Pentax K10D, do not be surprised to see a weather sealed EF-S "L" lens for the camera.
I would think that if they planned to give an L designation to an EF-S lens, that would've already happened with the 17-55 IS. Are there any other $1000 lenses in the Canon lineup without the L? It really doesn't matter anyways, the 17-55 is a fine lens, and IMHO worthy of the L designation. It just won't happen.
Makes perfect sense to me as a vacation camera. A superzoom lens would complement a set of primes very well. ...Show more →
I guess I just don't get it. I take all my lenses on vacation.
snoops wrote:
An EF-S 18-200 ?? IS? would be snapped up by your average consumer. The ability to have one walk around lens on your XTi and cover 95% of situations would prove very popular. Many consumers never upgrade past the the twin kit lenses anyway so having the superzoom would be a popular offering IMHO. Admittedly, IQ won't be great but worse than the kit?? And to directly compete with Nikon's offering I'm not sure why this lens doesn't already exist.
Not sure whether they would include IS though...
I think for a lot of people looking for a walkaround lens, a 17-125 with a ring USM would probably be more useful, in that it covers the same angle of view as a 28-200mm in 35mm. The problem with superzooms is that they tend to be too heavy, bulky and slow, for walking around. Because they are slow, they need IS, and that makes them heavier and bulkier.
Personally, I think a great lens for EF-S would be a 30mm F/1.4 L USM, a superfast, high quality, "normal" length lens, for crop cameras. Should be razor sharp, free of distortions, and compact. Yeah, I know, it's a prime, but would be terrific when the quantity of light isn't the best. Not sufficient for a Black cat, in a coal bin at midnight on a moonless night, but good for a lot of conditions where a F/4 zoom, isn't going to cut it, even with IS.
Wouldn't two bits provide 4 extra levels? Or is that 4 per channel? In any case, I don't understand how you would get "100 times" as many levels from two extra bits.
The fat lady hasn't sung... the rumour was Canon were releasing 100 producst at PMA. Remember! Now that they've released the 1D MK III , a camera that .002% of the photographic population will purchase , a couple of lenses and those point-and-shoots, theres got to be another 90 products coming.
So, who's with me about the new printers and papers?
Don't forget the 7 point and shoots they released, 3 accessories, and the 20 or so bundle kits. That only leaves us with another 70 or so products to go!
Geoff's Source 1's explanation seems to be a very plausible one that would be consistent with the posts on Best Buy. Maybe Canon had originally planned on introducing the 40D at PMA and Best Buy stopped buying the 30D, but Canon's now deferred the 40D until later in the year.
In the meantime, it wouldn't be surprising to have Best Buy bring back the 30D in a new kit form with aggressive pricing in the interim. It could also be that Best Buy is just discontinuing the current kit and will be introducing a new kit shortly. I wouldn't take Best Buy's discontinuation of the current 30D kit as a sign that a 40D is imminent.
Geoff Costello wrote:
I have spent the last week checking / begging to sources who had leaked (or claimed to) on the 30D replacement (AKA 40D). However I can’t seem to get consistent information. The two most credible sources are saying:
• Source 1 - Canon underestimated the drop in the demand for the 30D and has significant stocks, so that they made a late decision to defer the 40D, drop the price of the 30D and market it strongly (lens packages, D80 like pricing in some markets etc). They now intend to have 4 DSLR announcements in the year of the EOS 20th anniversary – beginning March 2007 and ending February 2008. The 1D III (done), the 40D (mid year), the 1Ds III (August / September 2007) and the 5D replacement ...Show more →
I can't see Canon releasing the 40D at PMA, they wouldn't want to steal any of the 1D3's thunder - but you never know. This last month has proved many of us wrong but for those waiting for the 1D2N replacement, most would seem pretty happy, I know I am.
I think we are going to see more new releases from Canon during the course of the year. It makes sense that they don't play all their cards at once because it will only be more exciting to see something new when you least expect it. (Example: 1DmkIII!!! Who expected that?) 1DsII users will probably get a new body before year end with many of the features of the 1DIII, a few more MP, live view, etc. 20D/30D users, well, just wait and see. I fully believe a replacement is probably ready but being held off in order for Canon to clean out their inventory of 30D bodies, "which explains the kits", and then we will see something along the lines of a current 30D with a few more MP, anti-dust, possibly live view display, better ISO capable, etc.
I realize that lots of people upgrade their equipment to the latest greatest thing every time something new comes out. That is just human nature to want the best. If you really sit back and think about it, what is it that our cameras are lacking currently that would make us a better photographer? For the 10D user that is waiting for something better, you should have purchased a 30D during the latest round of rebates! A 30D is far superior to the 10D in all of the ways that you complain you 10D is lacking! 1DsII users, well face it. You have one fine piece of hardware currently. Yes, it may be over two years old but still untouched in the current market. (I can't wait for a 1DsII replacement myself because I would love to purchase a used one cheap!) Oh well, lets just wait and see! In the mean time why doesn't everyone go out and take some photos! That is what I am going to do today!
Canon UK (I can't find the link right now, but I think someone said Northlight has it) has officially said the fat lady has sung.
While I'm very interested in printers and will be purchasing a new large format this year, I have zero interest in P&S cameras. I guess we all have our favorites and mine is the 1Ds3; sadly, nothing interests me as much right now. I would absolutely love to see the Nikon rumors come true (even if they can't quite get to a "real" FF camera) as it would put some pressure on Canon, who ostensibly feels none at the high end.
That also doesn't mean they won't do post PMA stuff this summer and fall, but for now, don't forget your coats and don't let the door hit you on the way out because the show is over (actually it's over before it began).
I want a 40d as much as the next guy, but the photo at Best Buy doesn't realy say much. I've seen many items have the yellow tag at Best Buy without even so much as a sale, let alone a clearance item. I wouldn't put my faith in the Best Buy workers too much either as I had to have my camera repaired 3 times to fix a faulty on/off switch on my 20d. (Damn worthless service plan) Not only that, but that is the 30d's normal price there. I have given up hope for the 40d until at least fall. I am guessing that the R&D efforts are focused on the 5d upgrade instead, since the 40d is only 1 year old and the 5d is 18 months old.
StevenPA wrote:
I think I understand where Adrian is coming from. He wants the 5D but is reluctant to pay so much.
I'm in a similar situation. My 300D is getting old. Every time I go down to my favourite camera shop I'm caught between a logical upgrade to a 30D (sweet camera and an unbelievable upgrade from what I have) and the 5D (what I really want). Holding the two cameras, comparing RAW files, etc. convinces me that the 30D is kind of boring while the 5D is definitely exciting, if that makes any sense. For me, I think it has a lot to do with the viewfinder and hence the crop factor or lack thereof....Show more →
You and I are in the same boat. I know a 30D would be a massive upgrade from my 300D, but I really want a 5D that I can't afford. What I want from Canon is a 40D that'll make me almost as happy as a 5D (close enough anyway) to get me to upgrade.
This is what I recommend everyone to do. Take the same photo with the following cameras: 1dsMark II, 5D, 30D, 20D &10D. Blow them all up to 16x20. Then compare them side by side. You will be amazed at how little the difference. THen you will see all of this talk is not as important as: composition, lighting and other photographer skills!
If you guys don't stop talking, I am going to break out my old Pentax K1000, and blow you all away!
Edited by IraGraham on Feb 28, 2007 at 11:02 AM GMT
Please.... How many people on this forum asked for spot metering when the 20D was a current model. LOTS. It been a year since the 30D came out, so I don't remember all the changes. It seems like there were 4 or 5, all of which were requested right here. (and in other forums as well.) Canon listened, introduced a solid update, and got ripped to shreds by almost everyone here. Canon did put effort into the 30D. Maybe everyone would have been happier if it were labeled the 25D instaed of the 30D
Not good enough.... No weather sealing.... Its not a 1.3 crop or full frame.... What? only 5FPS? kvetching moan and whine........
I'm sure the same thing will happen with the 40D. Its not a repackaged 1D3 that sells for the price of the XTi, Canon is ripping us off.... WWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Even if they did give you a repackaged 1D3 at the cost of an XTi and only called it the 35D people would complain its not good enough since its only a 35D instaed of a 40D, its only incrimental, we wanted a real major update.
Take a deep breath, gather up you equipment and either A) post it on B&S, or B) Go shoot something
thedoctah wrote:
All the more reason to complain. The 30D is certainly no reason to upgrade from a 20D. It's a classic stopgap. Obviously they put no effort into that upgrade, and it shows. If they don't come up with a 40D for PMA, they're nuts, IMO.
gbee wrote:
The MKII has issues that Canon could not fix, the MKIIn was the fix but not really an upgrade.
The MKIIn has shown to have the same issues but to a much lesser degree, so they made a new camera, 3rd time lucky, I hope, as I am planning to migrate to the MKIII.
The whole system is fantastic, not just the camera but the flash and new WiFi ~ just mega and just what I need.
jamesf99 wrote:
. Canon updated the one camera that receives more frequent updates than any other (must be for their most important customers)
Drfl wrote:
[...] I am guessing that the R&D efforts are focused on the 5d upgrade instead, since the 40d is only 1 year old and the 5d is 18 months old.
But the 5D has no competition. There is nothing, not even close, that matches full frame for that price. That's entirely different for the 30D, which is getting its rear handed to itself.
Ye gods, does this place echo The 30D is only a warmed over 20D, so in a way the 30D is 30 months old. At least the sensor is.
I know it is wishful thinking, but please, please, Canon, put a re-designed 1DIII sensor with 4 channel output and DIGIC III in the 40D and make it kick the 10 mpixel competition, don't warm it over again, just to catch up with, instead of pass, the competitors.
I recently took my 70-200 f2.8L IS on vacation and rented a 17-40L and then left my "travel lens" 24-105L home. Go figure. 
Oh well, lets just wait and see! In the mean time why doesn't everyone go out and take some photos! That is what I am going to do today! 