On another note, why is everyone concerned about the 30d competing with the d200? There is no Canon equivalent of the D200, unless you call a whole in the product line competitive.
The 20d/30d were designed to compete against the D70/D80 and I still think that battle is competitive. Canon has a gap "price wise" in the line from the 30d to the 5d and IMO the best way to counter that is to increase the 30d specs, and bump the 5d's capabilities and features while simultaneously decreasing the price. If Canon had a 5d II with all the missing stuff the 5d lacks (fill in your own wish list) for a price of $2K, Nikon would sell far fewer D200s.
jamesf99 wrote:
On another note, why is everyone concerned about the 30d competing with the d200? There is no Canon equivalent of the D200, unless you call a whole in the product line competitive.
The 20d/30d were designed to compete against the D70/D80 and I still think that battle is competitive. Canon has a gap "price wise" in the line from the 30d to the 5d and IMO the best way to counter that is to increase the 30d specs, and bump the 5d's capabilities and features while simultaneously decreasing the price. If Canon had a 5d II with all the missing stuff the 5d lacks (fill in your own wish list) for a price of $2K, Nikon would sell far fewer D200s....Show more →
If Canon just reduced the street price of the 5D to around $2000 give or take, there would be far fewer D200s sold.
RikWriter wrote:
If Canon just reduced the street price of the 5D to around $2000 give or take, there would be far fewer D200s sold.
You're right of course in one sense (even if you already can buy it at close to that price), but it won't stop all those whiners and complainers (me ) that want the 5d to do more than it does and from pointing out those deficiencies. I love the size of the 5d compared to hauling a 1 series around when traveling, but it lacks some things that keep it from being a real "do all" camera.
Now if canon was to cut the grip off the 1Ds mkII and have the grip as an optional extra then they would have a great way to not bother with upgrading the 5D as well as providing an easy (required by wingeing consumers) change for a mkIII. Maybe add some FPS and who needs more, there will be a digital 1V - finally! The 5D can become the equivelent of the 30V (Elan 7) and those needing a '3' for weather proofing and AF will have to buy the gripless 1Ds mkIII thereby netting canon another few swimming pools of cash without the desertations from the top level tier that the 5D to some extent caused.
Canon feel free to use my idea but I want one for free!
Beni wrote:
Now if canon was to cut the grip off the 1Ds mkII and have the grip as an optional extra then they would have a great way to not bother with upgrading the 5D as well as providing an easy (required by wingeing consumers) change for a mkIII.
Bingo!
I'm also hearing about BLACK! 100-400 f4.0 IS. That would completely ruin the ever so popular "white color for heat reasons" speculation.
The EOS 3 was water resistant, which meant (I think) it was semi-weather sealed.
I've been asking Canon for a 12-24 f/2.8L for a long time. A 10-24?!? Even better! I can't believe there's not more chatter on this lens! And if a 24-70 2.8L IS comes out, looks like I'll be the proud owner of 2 24-70 lenses!
Philippe Arnez wrote:
That's wrong! The rebate lasts until 19th of february and PMA starts 8th of march, so that's 2-3 weeks before and not after PMA ends.
Therefore, I'm not giving up my hopes
Ooops, sorry you're right.
You don't have to complete your rebate until after PMA which gives people lots of time to wait, find out what Canon is going to do (with the 5d I'm still saying "nothing") and return their purchases. In other words, if anyone wants to buy right before PMA, they may want to wait on returning the rebate information until they find out what Canon does, or doesn't, release.
"Claims must be postmarked by March 22, 2007
Again, I'm saying no new 5d. Could be wrong, but I don't think so. Canon has really slowed on their constant release mentality. It seems like they're not in much of a hurry or they're not ready. There may be a new 1 series, but......
I've never understood the need for a new 5D this soon either. But some people seem confident that it will happen at PMA.
The 40D needs to be introduced with dust management. The 1DsII was designed by Thomas Edison and needs to be replaced. The 5D is still very modern at its price point.
I agree that the D200 sits in a niche by itself. (as all of Canons cameras do above the 30D). That was the point of introducing the D200. Canon may not have a response.
Canon needs a replacement for the 16-35. Even a good copy will not cut it on a next-generation 1Ds MK II or whatever.
Canon still has nothing to compete with the resolution and camera body performance of the D2X after two years, and nothing like the 200-400/4 VR. Some people like to take telephoto photographs and don't shoot in caves or at night. Apparently sports photogs must make more money than nature photogs, as Canon is lacking here.
All of the 1D series bodies are based on ancient 1990s design and should be revamped. The ID MK II/n in particular is becoming a dinosaur after nearly 3 years total on the market.
What we're looking at in this list of equipment is a compilation and refinement of rumours from the largest Korean dSLR website, www.slrclub.com for those interested.
The author states many, many times that these are merely rumours. I mean, come on, he's got 5 new lenses, all L, and every camera being updated. Seems to be more of a wish list than anything else.
He does mention that "some pros are already testing the 1Ds Mk3" although he does not mention where and it's highly unlikely that testing is being done in Korea, and that it will have "dust removal". Believe that?
Also, when is PMA? The author seems to think that it's in April (i.e. 2007, 4th month) and that that's when Canon will make its announcements.
One more thing, he says, "Rumours are rumours, but some of them are bound to be correct." Nice... If I put one chip on every space of the roulette table I'm bound to win money too, right?
He also literally cheers for a 24-70L with IS at a thousand euros, as do many of us I believe.
Edited by StevenPA on Jan 16, 2007 at 12:03 PM GMT
hah imagine if canon came out with that 10-24mm 2.8L and the 24-70 2.8L IS. if you get a 70-200 2.8L IS, you could have the ideal 2.8L setup for anything below 200mm...from 10 to 200mm.
Everyone is saying that the D200 is the biggest threat to Canon and the 40D, Also don't forget about the new Pentax K10D which makes the 30D look old and lacking alot of features! And then concider how much Pentax is charging for the K10D (Which is much cheaper then the D200 and 30D and around the price as the 400D).
What I would like to see would be a new 50 f/2.5 macro lens, a updated 100-400 IS with the newer IS system, re-designed zoom (Get rid of push/pull design) and a 400 f/5.6 IS. Also I would like to see a 17-70 f/4 L and a 100 f/2.8 macro IS and updated macro flashes with ETTL-II. Another thing would be a small compact flash gun (Like the 220EX) with an adjustable head (Like the Nikon SB-400).
) that want the 5d to do more than it does and from pointing out those deficiencies. I love the size of the 5d compared to hauling a 1 series around when traveling, but it lacks some things that keep it from being a real "do all" camera.
