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p.122 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

I thought you said you were leaving Canon 6 months ago, EB.

Feb 19, 2007 at 12:34 AM

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YES I will sell all my freaking canon gear, if they don't give me what I want. A new better 1Ds... I will move to leica with their M series, Yes I already have an M8 and planing on getting a second one. It's fantastic and the prints look as good as from any Canon I use so far (1DsMk2 and 5D) Oh I don't even want to start about their fantastic wide angle lenses. It's a dream....

sad, that this will never happen ;-) I would love to, but I still love it to much to shoot Wild animals and action sports, and there is no way around Canon, so I will stick there whatever they do, until another Camera maker gets it selftogether and put some pressure on Canon....

Feb 19, 2007 at 12:36 AM

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TK Geoff wrote:
In case anyone wanted it here's a consolidated timeline of the past few years of the previous model cameras that are looked at to have a possible upgrade at PMA (03/07).

08/06 400d
02/06 30d
08/05 5d, 1d Mark II N
02/05 350d
08-09/04 20d, 1ds Mark II N
01/04 1d Mark II

So from looking at this I'm seeing a few things. the 1Ds Mark II has gone the longest without an upgrade of any kind (2.5 yrs). The 30d has only been out 1 ....

Edited by TK Geoff on Feb 18, 2007 at 04:01 PM GMT

In my opinion the 1D mkII replacement will come before the 1Ds MKII.

It has gone the longest (3 years), since the N version was only the bigger screen and picture style.

Feb 19, 2007 at 12:47 AM

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Joel Slack wrote:

How can you have multiple sensors without having multiple lenses? Or am I misunderstanding your post?

Here's a paper on the system

Feb 19, 2007 at 01:03 AM

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beewee wrote:
Joel Slack wrote:

How can you have multiple sensors without having multiple lenses? Or am I misunderstanding your post?

Here's a paper on the system

So there are multiple lenses. Doable for orbit-based cameras, as the parallax issue would be less pronounced. Unless you are trying to get 3D images, though, it's obviously not practical for a hand-held camera. Nobody's going to expend that sort of R&D $$ on a gimmick. (IMO)

Thanks for the link, beewee.

Feb 19, 2007 at 01:18 AM

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There's a great article on dpreview right now about a new Sony 6.4mp 1/1.8 CMOS sensor that can simultaneously handle 30fps video and full resolution still images. Sounds like it would make a killer PS, assuming of course that the noise is decent....
Not what we're looking for in a new Canon DSLR though.
cheers,
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Feb 19, 2007 at 01:28 AM

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jdaily wrote:
I thought you said you were leaving Canon 6 months ago, EB.

Yeah, I have experienced some personal and professional problems since, so everything is on hold until it is clear that I will be able to shoot anything of significance this year. I bought a D80 and am learning NX however.

EB

Feb 19, 2007 at 01:35 AM

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Geoff Costello wrote:
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Interestingly the EOS 1D already uses dual 32bit RISC CPUs - one for controling the Autofocus motor and one for detecting focus....
Also interesting is that Canon have had a DIGIC II DV chip for some time to process their digiral video... Imagine DIGIC III and DIGIC DV in the same camera (make those photojournos happy)
One thing that might be a concern with such a configuration is power consumption.

Feb 19, 2007 at 02:09 AM

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No further news on the rabbit and Saturn? The wait is KILLING me!

Feb 19, 2007 at 02:50 AM

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I can't belive this thread is over 300 pages and there really is no real leak up to this point.

Feb 19, 2007 at 02:58 AM

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khurram1 wrote:
I can't belive this thread is over 300 pages and there really is no real leak up to this point.

Not true... I saw an undercover image of the prototype rabbit about 100 pages ago. Thing's HUGE!

Feb 19, 2007 at 03:02 AM

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khurram1 wrote:
I can't belive this thread is over 300 pages and there really is no real leak up to this point.
All part of Canon's continuous improvement program

. Each time there is a leak Canon's team goes to work on elimiating the source, changing their processes so it can't happen again... Letting everyone know that the consequences of a leak are unacceptable...

I just feel sorry for their families - "Where's Daddy gone" they ask

No one can (or will) say.... People are just quiet. Avoiding the unspeakable and unmentionable....

Feb 19, 2007 at 03:07 AM

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Hi,

Some fun here http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&message=22111855 with a nice looking picture from what looks like a web site showing a (presumably fake) 1Ds wih a 32mp 4:3 full frame sensor...

Wouldn't it be nice.... And it would be a worthwhile step up from the 1D with 10mp 1.255 crop and 16mp full frame... Talk about Canon restarting their leadership in the pro market

Ah well - just dreaming

Feb 19, 2007 at 03:25 AM

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Geoff Costello wrote:
Hi,

Some fun here http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&message=22111855 with a nice looking picture from what looks like a web site showing a (presumably fake) 1Ds wih a 32mp 4:3 full frame sensor...

Wouldn't it be nice.... And it would be a worthwhile step up from the 1D with 10mp 1.255 crop and 16mp full frame... Talk about Canon restarting their leadership in the pro market

Ah well - just dreaming

Like my picture, do you?

Yes, it sure would be nice, wouldn't it? Interesting that the big selling points (and the lowly f/1.4 lens) are the reasons people are dismissing it as fake.

It illustrates an interesting dichotomy. One one hand, people are threatening to leave Canon if they don't provide a totally kick-butt new camera, and on the other, those very kick-butt cameras are instantly attacked as stupid, OBVIOUS fakes.

Kind of hard for Canon to win in that atmosphere. But I sure like the look of this Ds3, and imagine what 32mp might look like....wow.

Feb 19, 2007 at 03:52 AM

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er....next page?

Feb 19, 2007 at 03:53 AM

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Just to get off the DSLR segment for a bit. I've got some straightforward questions for you guys.

1) When can we expect Canon P&S to have a sensor like the Fuji Super CCD, with usable high ISO performance. I like the Fuji F30, but it lacks IS and the lens has a small aperture.

2) With the current lens resolution maxing out already, how can Canon make better lens capable of even higher resolution for the future 1Ds? I saw the reviews on photozone of Zeiss lens for Nikon, but their MTF doesn't seem to be that high (I don't know much about MTF). When I look at portrait photos from MF for example, the resolution seems to be so high that I can see the fine hair details. Is this because of the sensor or the lens? How do they make their lenses to be able to resolve so much detail?

Feb 19, 2007 at 04:04 AM

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p.122 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread

Probably asked already in these 305 previous pages, when is Canon expected to make "new stuff" announcements?

Feb 19, 2007 at 04:29 AM

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The most authoritative rumor is midnight GMT this Thursday morning, the 22nd.

Feb 19, 2007 at 04:32 AM

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Etadam wrote:
Probably asked already in these 305 previous pages, when is Canon expected to make "new stuff" announcements?
Current 'expectation' is late on 22 February for a big 1 series announcment... Though in reaility Canon will have lots more to announce and could spread the process to up to about 3 days before PMA in early March (Thursday 8th to Sunday 11th March from memory)

Feb 19, 2007 at 04:33 AM

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Rusty1 wrote:

Hmm...Has anyone noticed you never see lordcarl and Chuck Westfall in a room at the same time? ;-)

Well, I don't know Chuck personally nor have I met him in person but he and my mentor are good friends. From what my mentor told me, Chuck wrote most of the text in all the Canon EOS brochures including the Lens Work III book - all eight editions of it.

Paul Schmidt wrote:
New models at the high end, are expensive to develop, and don't generate a lot of sales, which makes them more expensive to produce as well. So you need a lot longer time period to make money on the new model, which is why you see new models at the bottom end, quite often, and some high end models seem to be around forever.

The high end models need not sell a lot to generate the same amount of $$$ to Canon. About 30,000 units of EOS 400D are made per month as compared to about 8,000 units for the 1-series. OK, these 8,000 units are my estimation, based on the volume of the EOS-1v, which used to be 4,000 units per month before Canon raised it to 8,000 at the peak of its demand prior to the original 1D's debut.

The figure may be split to 5,000 units ($20million) for the 1D MK II N and 3,000 ($24million) for the 1Ds MK II. This combination would generate higher dollar sales than 30,000 units ($32million) of EOS 400D.

Feb 19, 2007 at 05:03 AM

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