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Archive 2003 · Say It's Not So...

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I've been wanting this lens....I just hope the new one isn't too much money!

Sep 23, 2003 at 01:59 AM

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If it does happen, the 70-200 F4L will need more elements in more groups so by definition it cannot be as sharp as the original. But of course, IS will improve images for those not using proper technique.

I'll stick with my old fashioned, gotta bring the tripod, F4L lenses. They are cheaper, sharper and take gorgeous pictures. I don't need no stinking IS.

Translation: I really can't afford the IS versions of most lenses.

-Steve

Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary, I was only joking, put your weapons away, I take it all back, I'll never do it again, I'll be good...

Sep 23, 2003 at 02:44 AM

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smaug wrote:
If it does happen, the 70-200 F4L will need more elements in more groups so by definition it cannot be as sharp as the original.

A common fallacy. More elements does not necessarily imply less sharpness.

Sep 23, 2003 at 02:48 AM

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Hi,
Does anyone care to guess what the cost of the F4L with IS will be?

Thanks in advance!

See ya...Jerry

Sep 23, 2003 at 03:11 AM

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$1199

Sep 23, 2003 at 03:14 AM

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DavidP wrote:
smaug wrote:
If it does happen, the 70-200 F4L will need more elements in more groups so by definition it cannot be as sharp as the original.

A common fallacy. More elements does not necessarily imply less sharpness.

More glass equals more barriers to the light traveling through. The highest quality UV filter on the market degrades image quality to some slight degree and that's just adding one more piece of glass... a thin one at that. It's not fallacy, it's physics. Now consider adding 5 or 6 more lenses for the IS group... I don't see how the optics would improve.

Of course if the entire lens is re-worked and higher grade glass is used throughout (maybe flourite or...) then maybe it wouldn't be hampered.
THAT is the real question. Will they use the same glass and just add elements for the IS or re-work the whole she-bang?

Of course you can just write this off as my opinion an prompty forget it if you wish. I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just defending my cherished fallacy.

-Steve

Sep 23, 2003 at 03:28 AM

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smaug wrote:
Of course if the entire lens is re-worked and higher grade glass is used throughout (maybe flourite or...) then maybe it wouldn't be hampered.
THAT is the real question. Will they use the same glass and just add elements for the IS or re-work the whole she-bang?

The entire lens has been redesigned in the past, when going to IS.

It's not like they took the same lens design and used it again, slapping some IS elements in there.

So, it doesn't have to follow that the IS lens is less sharp.

Sep 23, 2003 at 03:52 AM

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DavidP wrote:

The entire lens has been redesigned in the past, when going to IS.

It's not like they took the same lens design and used it again, slapping some IS elements in there.

So, it doesn't have to follow that the IS lens is less sharp.

Oh, sure. Spoil my fun.

I just might have to upgrade if they do make an IS version. While I truly love my lens as it is, the IS would be quite handy in a lot of situations.

(crossing fingers)

-Steve

Sep 23, 2003 at 04:38 AM

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I know one thing: whatever degradation in sharpness there is from the extra elements is FAR less than the increase in sharpness due to the IS, at least for me.

Sep 23, 2003 at 04:53 AM

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