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p.1 #1 · Pentax K10D - 16 bit?


I tried to post this to one of the other Pentax threads, but they've gone to archive already and search returned nothing... This is over a week old but I haven't seen it here. anyway:

A post on the photozone forums:

According to the chief editor of the swedish magazine Kamera & Bild, Pentax Sweden has said that Pentax decided the 11th of September that the new K10D would output 16 bit RAW files, not 12 bit. The current pre-production models has a firmware with 12 bit RAW, but the production model will have a new firmware supporting 16 bit RAW.

more here if you read Swedish...



Sep 26, 2006 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #2 · Pentax K10D - 16 bit?


It's supposed to be 2x22-Bit D/A converters

Source:

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It's at about 1 minute into the video



Sep 26, 2006 at 04:42 PM
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p.1 #3 · Pentax K10D - 16 bit?


not exactly. Originally their spec sheet in the press release said 22-bit A/D conversion with 8-bit JPEG and 12-bit RAW output, which I and many others took to be meaningless or at least worthy of a skeptical wait-and-see. If the source above is correct, Pentax has realized that making noise about internal 22-bit math with 12-bit output doesn't excite people much, what they want is the full bit depth original.


Sep 26, 2006 at 04:47 PM
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p.1 #4 · Pentax K10D - 16 bit?


In thoery by oversampling they (Pentax) can optimize the 12 bits going into the RAW file. I doubt we'll see true 16 bit files like a digital back or the Leica DMR, but it's possible that Pentax does better than the typical 12 bit RAW. Nikon uses 14 bits on their A/D converter in the D200.

We'll have to wait for some credible reviews from DPreview and alike to see if the 22 bit A/D converter adds up to be better fidelity or not...



Sep 27, 2006 at 12:34 AM
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p.1 #5 · Pentax K10D - 16 bit?


Some of these specifications may still be subject to change before the camera hits the streets. The sample I played with yesterday had an ISO range of 50 to 3200, but I was told the production camera would only have ISO 100 to 1600. They expanded ISO range might reappear as a firmware update somewhere down the road.


Sep 27, 2006 at 07:02 AM
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p.1 #6 · Pentax K10D - 16 bit?


I have a sneaky suspicion that all things being equal, the 22 bit number crunching is subtley better than conventional conversions. I equate all of it to performing all your photoshoping in 16 bit tiff mode, and then saving your work in 8bit jpeg. The end result is a saved 16 bit file that was processed in 22 bit mode. Time will tell real soon.


Sep 27, 2006 at 09:52 AM





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