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p.2 #1 · new Zeiss T/S lens

rpinciuc wrote:
Stefan, thank you for the info and sample images, these lenses look to have a lot of potential, I just hope I can afford one (or two, or all three).

Are there any future plans for a wider version, something between 18mm and 28mm?

Thanks again,
-Rob
a 25/3.5 apo-pc-distagon-prototype already exists. for c/y only. too complicated and expensive. picture can be seen on an italian site. use google.

Sep 12, 2006 at 01:44 PM

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p.2 #2 · new Zeiss T/S lens

I emailed Hartblei and they said this product will be sold by Zeiss. If Stephen is returning from Kiev with lenses, it seems Hartblei is the manufacturer. I'm sure the lenses will be built to a high standard, or Zeiss wouldn't get involved.

Sep 12, 2006 at 01:48 PM

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p.2 #3 · new Zeiss T/S lens

The Contax 25PC is here: http://www.geocities.com/ilprode/_25f35PC.htm

Sep 12, 2006 at 01:49 PM

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p.2 #4 · new Zeiss T/S lens

That Contax 25 PC looks sick. And expensive. However, it's not a Superrotator, and likely doesn't implement some features of this new Hartblei series, like a longer backplane distance to help with microlens angles. It also may not take advantage of any Zeiss technology developments in the past 20 years.

The 40mm will probably be excellent for my purposes, but a 28/25/21 would be welcome too!

Cheers,
-Rob

Sep 12, 2006 at 04:17 PM

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p.2 #5 · new Zeiss T/S lens

'Cool' is so much a better word than 'sick'. You kids ruin everything.

Sep 12, 2006 at 04:25 PM

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p.2 #6 · new Zeiss T/S lens

An interesting product to be sure but a used set of Hassleblad lenses ( or your own in my case) and a Mirex or Zoerk shift adapter will likely be cheaper and have more shift (15mm with the Mirex and 20mm with the Zoerk).

Sep 12, 2006 at 04:31 PM

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p.2 #7 · new Zeiss T/S lens

But tilt is incredibly useful. Shift can usually be worked around with a wider lens or photoshop. I often use tilt handheld, which I didn't expect to do before having movements with a small format.

Sep 12, 2006 at 04:40 PM

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p.2 #8 · new Zeiss T/S lens

The Mirex adapter has tilt as well as shift...

Sep 12, 2006 at 04:50 PM

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p.2 #9 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Lotusm50 wrote:
The Mirex adapter has tilt as well as shift...

But not both at the same time, as far as I can tell.

Sep 12, 2006 at 05:00 PM

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p.2 #10 · new Zeiss T/S lens

dcmiller wrote:
Lotusm50 wrote:
The Mirex adapter has tilt as well as shift...

But not both at the same time, as far as I can tell.

The Mirex webasite says nothing about not being able to use tilt is you use shift. The site says (loosely translated) "... extremely large adjustment possibilities could be created. This brings to small format mirror reflex cameras image design possibilities comparable to the large format photography." It seems to me that for this statement to be true, you really would need shift and tilt ot operate at the same time. But I am aware that marketing statements will usually try to stretch their use of fact.

Sep 12, 2006 at 05:41 PM

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p.2 #11 · new Zeiss T/S lens

dcmiller wrote:
'Cool' is so much a better word than 'sick'. You kids ruin everything.

Hah, well I just turned 31, so it's nice to still be thought of as a kid!

Cheers,
-Rob

Sep 12, 2006 at 06:03 PM

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p.2 #12 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Being able to tilt AND shift at the same time does not interest me to greatly - being able to tilt at all does not get me THAT exited.

Sep 12, 2006 at 07:28 PM

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p.2 #13 · new Zeiss T/S lens

To anybody who wants to see the final lenses now, i just have uploaded a fast product shot to make clear what we are talking about. These lenses are a complete new sort of built, we used german aluminium, the surface anodizing is done by Zeiss itself, the whole mechanism is a redesign, the 40 mm is an inside focusing lens. This is serious photographers equipment to earn money with for years and years. And..... as a first hint: expect prices that corellate with the Hasselblad list. we have added additional features keeping the price still very competitive compared to what you get (I mean we built some highend stuff here-no goofing around toy).

Greetings from Munich
Stefan Steib www.hartblei.de

Sep 13, 2006 at 12:17 PM

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p.2 #14 · new Zeiss T/S lens

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Thanks Stefan this is what some folks in the market need and want

High price and german aluminium were at the top of my list of 'must haves'.............after that I wanted limited availability and syphilis.

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:01 PM

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p.2 #15 · new Zeiss T/S lens

I guess I don't get it. Most of the photos posted on the web site don't appear to do any more than what you could get with a lensbaby. I can see a need for the selected focus area in the last product shot if the advertising people were going to droop text both the the left and right sides. And the shot with the girl and flowers was nice but what is the point of having two people, standing next to each other, one sharply in focus the other so far out that you want to close one eye and only look at the girl on the left. Unless the whole point of the series was to show how narrow you can select a plane of focus and in any direction, which is easily done in Photoshop. But then I got up at 0420 this morning so I could be still asleep.
John

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:31 PM

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p.2 #16 · new Zeiss T/S lens

'tilt' photography is all the fashion at the moment for people without ideas to put an unusual look on an ordinary scene - reminds me of the zoom and expose craze when zoom lenses became popular. The very useful use of tilt is in studio photography where you can extend sharpness along a plane that is not parallel to the film/sensor.Shift is far more usefull in my opinion for both stitching and for avoiding converging verticals in architecture and interior photography. Unfortunatley the 40mm with only 12mm of shift is not going to get many architectural photographers interested esp if the price is around what a 40mm is from Hassleblad for the V series.

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:55 PM

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p.2 #17 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Still waiting for that 25mm T/S!

Sep 13, 2006 at 02:35 PM

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p.2 #18 · new Zeiss T/S lens

If you guys think people want to buy expensive tilt lenses to throw objects OUT of focus, you are mistaken.
John, do you mean you are waiting for a better 25TSE?

Sep 13, 2006 at 02:50 PM

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p.2 #19 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Whew, Thought for a moment I'd lost focus with the rest of the world. lol

Sep 13, 2006 at 03:03 PM

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p.2 #20 · new Zeiss T/S lens

dcmiller wrote:
If you guys think people want to buy expensive tilt lenses to throw objects OUT of focus, you are mistaken.
John, do you mean you are waiting for a better 25TSE?

For architectural work/interiors, shifting and tilting are handy features for perspective and focus control. Right now, there is no Zeiss 25TS at all. A 25Shift version never made it past prototype stage.

Sep 13, 2006 at 03:06 PM

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p.2 #21 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Stephen said he only had time for some quick shots. So he could shoot some attractive women, or line up bottles to show an altered plane of focus. Who can blame him? Babes over bottles.

Edited by dcmiller on Sep 13, 2006 at 09:18 AM GMT

Sep 13, 2006 at 03:16 PM

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p.2 #22 · new Zeiss T/S lens

jjlphoto wrote:
dcmiller wrote:
If you guys think people want to buy expensive tilt lenses to throw objects OUT of focus, you are mistaken.
John, do you mean you are waiting for a better 25TSE?

For architectural work/interiors, shifting and tilting are handy features for perspective and focus control. Right now, there is no Zeiss 25TS at all. A 25Shift version never made it past prototype stage.

I was refering to the Canon 24TSE. But I realize this lens is not ideal for interiors.

Sep 13, 2006 at 03:17 PM

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p.2 #23 · new Zeiss T/S lens

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I was refering to the Canon 24TSE. But I realize this lens is not ideal for interiors.

dcmiller-

This is the "Alternative Forum"! You should know better than to mention that lens!

Sep 13, 2006 at 03:25 PM

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p.2 #24 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Yeah I know. But it's also the alternate DIGITAL forum, and theres a thread on MF film cameras the forum police haven't moderated. So I'm going wild.

Sep 13, 2006 at 03:33 PM

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p.2 #25 · new Zeiss T/S lens

What is the alternative (apart from the super rare OL24) to the 24mm TS-E? Sometimes when shooting exteriors and interiors there is no alternative but to pull out the 24mm TS-E.

Sep 13, 2006 at 04:11 PM


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