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Archive 2006 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off

  
 
lord_malone
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p.1 #1 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


It all started here...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=150047

ooh... Sade is on my favorite jazz station. Nice. BTT

This is what I found out (I think). First off, let me make it clear that I'm no digital imaging expert, so these are just observations I made while out shooting yesterday. I'm just some guy who likes to take pictures. In no way is this personal observation of mine scientific or conclusive. Now that that's out of the way, I think the effect of fall-off is amplified somewhat when shooting in the Landscape picture style setting. The factors that influence where you'll notice fall-off is depending on where you're shooting in relation to the position of the sun. The pic of the view from my back deck I posted in the link above, the sun was to my right, which effectively caused light to appear to fall-off in the upper left corner of the picture. In this first pic, the sun was directly behind me. Notice how the darkened blue sky in the upper most portion of the photo pretty much uniform across from left to right (auto color correction during PP of all JPEG files to exagerate the fall-off effect in all images):

16mm, f/16, 1/80 sec.
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/706/img3477a0xp.jpg


Yeah, I know there is some distortion, but that was intended. I was going for that effect. In this next shot, the sun was to my right. As you can see, we're seeing the same effect as my controversial back deck shot....

16mm, f/16, 1/60 sec.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3416/img34781ow.jpg


Here is where it was the most extreme. Again,the sun was pretty much directly behind me...

17mm, f/16, 1/500 sec.
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4772/img34992ag.jpg


And finally, a shot with the sun to my left...

20mm, f/16, 1/320 sec.
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4494/img35110js.jpg


Interesting story behind the old man. On my way to the site to shoot, I got my Rodeo stuck when I high-centered in a ditch I didn't see. As seen here...

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5346/img34790in.jpg


4WD activated, but the left front wheel was spinning. No joy. Anyway, I decided to walk the rest of the way to the site and worry about the recovery operation later. I was in the middle of my shooting session when this old guy and his dogs came out of nowhere. He let me use his cell phone to make some calls to get myself out of there and we ended up shooting the sh!t (long story why I didn't have my own cell phone on me). Turns out he takes daily walks through the area and is an old WWII vet. He was also a willing subject, which was really nice since it added something extra special to some of the shots. With my recovery team enroute, and me being caught up in some serious conversation with the old feller, I ended up not taking as many photos as I would've liked, which accounts for the lack of varying lenses, apertures, shutter speeds, ISO settings and picture style settings. I will note that this phenomenom is barely noticeable when viewing it in RAW format, which led to my conclusion that it's the exaggerated color tones, saturation and contrast settings in the Landscape setting. I noticed that fall-off was less noticeable at ranges between 24mm and 35mm, which leads me to believe that this is more prone to happen at extremely wide angles only. I would love to hear other people's opinions on this.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/937/img34967gh.jpg



Mar 26, 2006 at 10:23 PM
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p.1 #2 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


Lovely photos!

How's the corners and light fall-off at f2.8 through 5.6?



Mar 27, 2006 at 08:26 AM
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p.1 #3 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


I am not too sure what you are exactly talking about... but i am guessing you are saying why the sky is not uniformly blue in some picture... sometimes it is more blue than others??

the reason i can think of is because you are using a circ polariser. At focal length more than 28mm, the filter might cause uneven darkening in the sky depend on where you are facing in relation to the sun. While the lens might cause some vignetting and what not, the effect from the circular polariser is way more obvious.

That is the reason why i never shoot landscape wider than 30mm with a circ pol unless i can get the whole sky uniformly more darker and saturated...



Mar 27, 2006 at 08:44 AM
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p.1 #4 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


Seconded. When using a circular polarizer on a wide angle lens, the angle of view is wide enough that you're getting noticeably different degrees of polarization.

I have the same effect here, 10-22 on a 20D

http://www.morseimaging.com/gallery2/d/126-2/IMG_9195.jpg

and a vertical shot/sun mostly behind me
http://www.morseimaging.com/gallery2/d/131-2/IMG_9197.jpg


I kind of like the effect for some shots, and don't for others. It's striking to say the least. I like your shots, first and last being my favourites.



Mar 27, 2006 at 09:42 AM
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p.1 #5 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


Well, that's the thing. I never used a CPL filter for these shots. Besides, I think we figured it out here...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=151821

BTW, I like your shots too.



Mar 27, 2006 at 12:49 PM
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p.1 #6 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


Atmospherics more than likely - more light scattering/reflection from apparent 'thicker' atmosphere closer to the horizon.


Mar 27, 2006 at 03:01 PM
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p.1 #7 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


Remford wrote:
See, The 16-35 is a miserable lens. Look at all that distortion, CA, flare, and softness.

Beautiful work.


They'd have to pry my 16-35L from my cold dead fingers.



Mar 27, 2006 at 03:24 PM
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p.1 #8 · 5D, 16-35L, Landscape Picture Style and Fall Off


normal effect for wide angle lens

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/key=vignetting



Mar 27, 2006 at 05:14 PM





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