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p.1 #1 · D2H from Cameta

Just thought the FM community should be aware, I bought a "demo" D2H from Cameta. I received it yesterday in a Nikon box marked "refurbished item". While it looked virtually brand new when I checked the shutter actuations Opanda showed it at 83,000+ releases. Needless to say I'm returning it....so buyer beware!!!!
Anyone have a mint D2H with low clicks for sale...I'm still looking.

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Jan 25, 2006 at 05:47 PM

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p.1 #2 · D2H from Cameta

83K is a way too many for a used one IMO however if there was a way to know the shutter had been replaced it would have been OK.
I don`t blame you for returning it.
John

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Jan 25, 2006 at 05:58 PM

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p.1 #3 · D2H from Cameta

First did you asked them what is actuation on body!

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Jan 25, 2006 at 06:06 PM

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p.1 #4 · D2H from Cameta

Wow, I'm really glad you posted that. I was about to go home tonight and put a bid on a D2H from Cameta. Bleh.

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Jan 25, 2006 at 06:26 PM

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p.1 #5 · D2H from Cameta

Demo with 83,000 actuations

Wow

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Jan 25, 2006 at 06:30 PM

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p.1 #6 · D2H from Cameta

can opanda check D1x files?

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Jan 25, 2006 at 07:03 PM

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p.1 #7 · D2H from Cameta

The Cameta "demos" are units that Nikon USA calls "Class B" items - salespeople samples, tradeshow demos, and cameras sent out to Nikon-sponsored workshops. They're then sent through the refurb program when taken out of use, and sold in that white "refurb" box.

I guess you always risk getting an item that's been out on the sponsorship workshop series circuit for a while, clicking a coupla thou shots a week for weeks on end by workshop participants. Looks like that's probably what you got this time.

Are you going to give Cameta a chance to send you a replacement? It's hard to believe you'd get two high-count items in a row! I once got a Class B F5 from Pro Photo Supply in Portland that had a big 1/2-inch bash in the prism; the replacement was perfect, though!

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Jan 25, 2006 at 09:31 PM

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p.1 #8 · D2H from Cameta

Let them send you a replacement instead of a credit.
My D2H demo from them is now showing 1178 actuations and I`ve had it nearly 3 weeks.
John

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Jan 26, 2006 at 12:08 AM

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p.1 #9 · D2H from Cameta

Check your PM. I may have the D2H you are looking for 18,000 clicks and "MINT"
Christian

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Jan 26, 2006 at 01:28 AM

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p.1 #10 · D2H from Cameta

Cameta is a reputable dealer. I am with you on returning the camera though.
I asked them if the refurb cameras they were selling had the meter fix and they ignored my request. That put me on alert.
Try to get one from the buy and sell forum. Something tells me you are going to be better off. Do not forget to ask for actuations.
William Rodriguez
Miami, Florida.

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Jan 26, 2006 at 03:24 AM

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p.1 #11 · D2H from Cameta

I purchased a D2H from Cameta refurbished and it had 650 actuations. After 1 hour the meter blew out. Sent it to Nikon and now I have a perfect D2H. Sweet deal.

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Jan 26, 2006 at 03:48 AM

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p.1 #12 · D2H from Cameta

Thanks for all the comments...I'm still looking for a mint D2H with low clicks.

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Jan 26, 2006 at 04:28 PM

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p.1 #13 · D2H from Cameta

shoremichael wrote:
Thanks for all the comments...I'm still looking for a mint D2H with low clicks.

Don't forget, the shutter on the D2 bodies are rated at 150,000 clicks. Even if you get a high mileage D2H (say 10,000+ clicks), there is still a lot of life left in the shutter.

my 0.02

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Jan 26, 2006 at 05:50 PM

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p.1 #14 · D2H from Cameta

as Roel sad

10,000 or 20,000 is nothig for that camera

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Jan 26, 2006 at 06:05 PM

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p.1 #15 · D2H from Cameta

Will Cameta replace the D2h with 80,000 click for one with a lower number?

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Jan 27, 2006 at 03:25 AM

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p.1 #16 · D2H from Cameta

cscherrer wrote:
Will Cameta replace the D2h with 80,000 click for one with a lower number?

Not sure, but it won't hurt to ask (or insist!).

80,000 clicks is a bit excessive for a "nearly new non-customer owned" demo.

My 0.02

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Jan 27, 2006 at 03:29 AM

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p.1 #17 · D2H from Cameta

Jozef wrote:
as Roel sad

10,000 or 20,000 is nothig for that camera

Plenty of them died by 20K.

JohnG

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Jan 27, 2006 at 05:04 AM

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p.1 #18 · D2H from Cameta

I decided not to mess with it. When I told them the camera had 83K+ clicks they reminded me it was a demo, I quoted from their auction description: "In most cases a Nikon USA Factory Demo is a product that has been used as a Nikon display piece or as a 'Salesman's Sample'. They have never been owned by a consumer and have minimal to no use....." Their response was send it back for a refund. Hopefully I'll get my refund soon, in the meantime I've found and purchased a D2H with less than 4K clicks for less than the Cameta demo.

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Jan 27, 2006 at 04:00 PM

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p.1 #19 · D2H from Cameta

I think this serves well to point out that Cameta is a reputable dealer. They agreed to take the unit back.

I did notice that their demo units consistently sell for slightly more than what one can be had privately. This means either people don't know what the range of the camera is used or they put a small premium on getting a camera through a dealer, that has been looked over by Nikon and carries a 1 yr warranty. Most of which you will not get in a private sale, most of the time. the warranty definitely not. Are those features worth $200 or so? thats subjective.

No I wouldn't want a unit at over 80+ K but at the same time I know this to be half of the estimated life with the potential and probability to go a great deal more. Besides having low actuations doesn't gaurantee anything, it's just probability.

Provided you get the refund, Cameta did well by you and by no means would I have considered it a rip off for them to sell you this camera to begin with.

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Jan 27, 2006 at 06:17 PM

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p.1 #20 · D2H from Cameta

I agree. I weighed the pros and cons of buying through Cameta or a private party and felt that I would have a better chance of getting my money back with Cameta, should I choose to return the camera. The 1yr warranty was also a nice addition. So, we'll see. If things don't work out, I'll return it and consider it lesson learned.

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Jan 27, 2006 at 07:54 PM

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p.1 #21 · D2H from Cameta

I e-mailed Cameta about the demo cameras. They told me the cameras come from Nikon and are sealed. They do not open each one to check actuations. It's all dependant on what Nikon takes in and considers a candidate for the demo line I guess.

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Jan 27, 2006 at 11:57 PM

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p.1 #22 · D2H from Cameta

bellyface,
Opanda can not report D1X actuations.
Apparently only Nikon service can read the number of actuations.

Maybe due to the build of the D1X being in an earlier era.

I have two D1Xs and would like to get a recap on number of clicks also.

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Jan 28, 2006 at 01:56 AM

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p.1 #23 · D2H from Cameta

I bought a demo version through someone else! They had bought the camera from cameta and they were switching to cannon! So I bought it from a guy on ebay, it only had about 2500 shots taken! It was perfect condintion, you wouldnt be able to tell it had been used!!

The only trouble was, I payed a little extra as I thought I wouldnt pay customs through the guy on ebay! Sadly I did, and then I had to pay an extra 250£

I did want to buy a demo version, as they seem to have had low use and also still had a warranty! A month after I bought the d2h I hear they are doing free service for the shutter problem, and I was like damn! I paid 300-400£ more for one with a warranty!!

PS Will cameta fix a camera if you have the original warranty from the previous owner?

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Jan 28, 2006 at 03:27 PM

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p.1 #24 · D2H from Cameta

I just wanted to update everyone, I received a full refund including shipping today. While I was disappointed I didn't receive a camera with low clicks, I don't feel Cameta ripped me off. I thought I would offer my experience with them as a "cautionary tale", hopefully you all will have better luck.

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Feb 02, 2006 at 06:50 PM

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p.1 #25 · D2H from Cameta

shoremichael wrote:
I just wanted to update everyone, I received a full refund including shipping today. While I was disappointed I didn't receive a camera with low clicks, I don't feel Cameta ripped me off. I thought I would offer my experience with them as a "cautionary tale", hopefully you all will have better luck.

I had a similar experience with Cameta................ had to return a lens due to some 'wear issues'. They did refund the purchase price. I didn't get a refund on the shipping though.

I would deal with Cameta again, BUT only on new HW.

Regards
JohnG

Feb 02, 2006 at 09:43 PM


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