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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I have used the 20-35 on my 20D and own/use the 28-70 2.8 Pro SV. I tested both lenses against my 17-40 f/4 L, 35mm f/2, 50mm f/1.4 and 70-200 f/4 L -- testing the 20-35 @ 28mm and 35mm and the 28-70 @ 28mm, 35mm, 50mm and 70mm against the Canon lenses at those respective ranges.

The 20-35 is a great lens -- especially for the price. It stacked up well (color and sharpness) and just a tad softer than the 17-40 in the center at f/4 and up. Did not test this one against the primes.

The 28-70 is also very good at f/4 and up -- a little soft at 2.8. It stacked up well against the 17-40 and 70-200 in sharpness @ f/4 & up, but was not very good against the primes (of course). The colors in the Tokina looked less saturated and was not as warm. But I believe this lens is a very good value for about $240.



Aug 30, 2005 at 07:35 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I have the Tokina 80-400 ATX-II and the 20-35 f/2.8. Both are fantastic lenses.

The 80-400 lens spent the entire summer in Africa with "diede" from the FM forum. The photo's she sent me showing what she and the lens could do are amazing.

spartan



Aug 30, 2005 at 07:37 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Tokina lens -your experiences


Just got the Tokina 12-24 last night. So far so good!


Sep 03, 2005 at 04:24 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I have the 20-35, it's good.

Tokina 28-70 ATX-Pro 2.6-2.8 is NOT SURE. Thinking about getting a better one. Should spend money to get a 85/1.8, or another in the 24-28 range? any recommendation?

Any experience on using tokina 12-24 on FF?



Sep 03, 2005 at 05:04 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Tokina lens -your experiences


and another vote for the 12-24 f/4

and 17mm prime



Sep 03, 2005 at 05:23 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I bought the 12-24 for a recent trip to new zealand....great lens, got some wonderful shots with it and my 20D...highly recommend it.....aloha.....peter


Sep 03, 2005 at 08:51 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I have a lot of nice Canon, Tamron, and Sigma primes & zooms.

However, wanted a cheap superzoom for those situations when (1) you don't want to carry more than one lens like a very strenuous uphill hike (2) you don't want to change lenses because it's a dusty or sandy environment or (3) you don't want to change lenses because you know you'll be carrying tons of other stuff in your hands like at an airshow.

The contenders were the Sigma & Tamron 18-200, Tamron 24-135, and Tokina 24-200. Main method of selecting one was the reviews here on FM and comparing pictures taken with these various lenses on PBase. The Tokina was the only superzoom whose pictures ever made me go "wow" so that's the one I got.

BTW -- you can look at samples of Tokina pictures at http://www.pbase.com/cameras/tokina

I found that the Tokina 24-200 gave terrific results as long as you understand it's limitations.
-- Terrible wide open. I tend to use it only on bright days with aperture priority set on f8
-- Slow zoom -- not to be used to track quickly moving children in AI Servo
-- Back off a little bit from fully zoomed in. 180mm gives much better results than 200mm.

On the plus side, it's incredibly inexpensive, it's built like a tank, feels very good in the hand, gives sharp, contrasty, nicely colored pictures as long as its used with the above limitations in mind.



Sep 03, 2005 at 09:07 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Tokina lens -your experiences


What about the 28-80 2.8 any experience?


Sep 03, 2005 at 09:34 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I used the 24-200 previously too. It's a great bargain for a starter-lens or for travel.


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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Tokina lens -your experiences


rburbank wrote:
the Tokina "plastic fantastic" isn't so bad either....

Plastic Fantastic is the nickname given to the Tokina 19-35. I bought one a couple of years ago for around $200 and it hasn't disappointed....its no "L" but it is a great value for the money...

by the way...spelling may be wrong, but the nickname was coined by this fellow: http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/Whats_new/a_Recent_changes.html


Thanks for the link, I spent alot of time reading several different articles

Like why do landscapes suck (or do not)

God bless

steve



Sep 05, 2005 at 05:50 AM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I am glad to hear that so many like the 17mm. Several pages like photodo and other rate it poorly but I attribute that to there being two versions out there (I have heard look for the ones that take 77mm filters). Considering
using it in place of spending the big bucks on a UWA zoom, Should I go for the zoom, Tokina is my current choice.

Regarding the 24-70, Tamron seems to be king. I say that comparing pop photo and other reviews. Check the rating chart at: http://www.popphoto.com/assets/download/572003105657.pdf for the tokina and compare it to the tamron :http://www.popphoto.com/assets/download/8212003124116.pdf The tamron even bests the Canon 24-70 f2.8L



Sep 05, 2005 at 10:39 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Tokina lens -your experiences


Where did in the PDF file say that Tamron beats 24-70/2.8L?


Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11 AM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Tokina lens -your experiences


ChrisEOS wrote:
Where did in the PDF file say that Tamron beats 24-70/2.8L?


Sorry, I think I may have been jumping ahead of myself a little. I should also say that Popular Photography has not declared Tamron the winner but when I pull up the subjective quality factor charts for the tamron 28-75 and compare them to the 24-70 2.8L, the Tamron has better scores. I know this is not true apples to apples comparison as the Tamron and Canon are compared at 28mm vs 24mm and 75mm vs 70mm but they are both compared at 50mm and looking at the charts, pop photo claims you can get an "A" rated 16X20 out of the Tamron vs a "B+" out of the Canon at 28mm/24mm f2.8-11, same for 50mm f5.6-f8 and 75mm/70mm f5.6-f8. PDFs are locatd at:
Canon: http://www.popphoto.com/assets/download/782003105411.pdf
Tamron: http://www.popphoto.com/assets/download/8212003124116.pdf

Please feel free to correct me but I pull the SQF charts up side by side in separate browser windows and compare. I admit that I do not look much past the "A"/"B+" zones of the SQF charts but unless I have my PDFs confused, Popular Photography rates the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 higher than they do the Canon 24-70mm f2.8L.



Sep 06, 2005 at 03:18 AM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Tokina lens -your experiences


I hope I did not ruin this thread by going off topic. Sorry.


Sep 06, 2005 at 09:46 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Tokina lens -your experiences


Well, it looks like I am the only one with bad experience with Tokina lenses.

I have used two Tokina lenses -- the older 20-35 f/3.5-4.5 AF and later the 20-35 f/2.8 ATX Pro. I believe the former was later replaced by a more platic 19-35 f/3.5-4.5 allergedly optically the same lens.

I liked the variable aperture lens on film cameras. And because of that, I later upgraded to the f/2.8 version. However, I never liked it. It is very well built and sharp, but that is about the only positive things I can say about it. The focus is loud compared with USM, and I absolutely hate the "clutch" mechanism. To switch from AF to MF and vice versa, you'd have to switch at exactly the same position where you switched last time -- sometimes it takes a few tries to find the correct location. This is just awful and counter intuitive. The variable aperture lens, in comparison, has a simple AF/MF switch (the same mechanism found on Canon's non-FTM lenses), which is very easy to use.

But the real problem I had with it was that it sufferred from heavy CA. I once took some pictures in the snow, the CA was severe and it was virtually everywhere. Also, even in scenes where CA is less noticeable, the colors produced by this lens are still very much "washed out". In contrast, Canon's L lenses and good primes (like the 50 f/1.4) produce much more saturated, luscious colors.

I eventually sold it and got the EF 17-40 f/4 and can not be happier. In my opinion, among the 3 independent lens makers, Tokina is falling behind, as they have the shortest lineup and oldest designs. Sigma has developed HSM and OS, but Tokina still dwells on the "clutch" mechanism.

Howard



Sep 06, 2005 at 11:04 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Tokina lens -your experiences


PDiamond wrote:
I bought the 12-24 for a recent trip to new zealand....great lens, got some wonderful shots with it and my 20D...highly recommend it.....aloha.....peter


Hi Peter

I would be really interested to see your images of NZ with this lens. We are going back to the South Island in March and I was debating buying the Tokina 12-24 for my 20D as I found for our last trip to NZ, my Canon 17-40 was not really wide enough.

Cheers
Sheila



Sep 07, 2005 at 02:16 AM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Tokina lens -your experiences


There is certainly a favoriable response for the 12-24.
How about the middle ranges 28-70 for example.
They also had a 28-80 and a 80 - 200 like canon.

Has anyone had difficulty with errors, ceasing to function/tearing up or service difficulties with this lens



Sep 08, 2005 at 06:58 AM
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