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p.2 #1 · D200


molson wrote:
I want:


  1. cheap
  2. all plastic
  3. light weight
  4. minimum 10 megapixels
  5. high eyepoint viewfinder
  6. excellent battery life

I already have a big, expensive, solid, heavy, fast camera in the D2X - what I want to compliment it is something I can take travelling or hiking and not be weighed down.

"In my opinion, the viewfinders are the biggest weakness of the amateur-grade cameras like the 20D and the D70s, and I would really be happy if some manufacturer (preferably Nikon, of course...) would address this problem.



Never...

Cheap and all plastic? YECH!! I think it will be mostly plastic but reinforced in all the right places. Won't be a pro body and, therefore, won't have that weight.

I agree 100% about the viewfinder though.

Cheers,
Craig Ryder



Aug 04, 2005 at 09:19 AM
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p.2 #2 · D200


Me andmy Nikon wrote:
Full frame CMOS sensor, and it will sell like crazy.


Why will it sell like crazy?

It'd be too expensive for general amateurs.

It would probably be overkill for press work

Rich amateurs and people who need resolution/depth of field would eat it up though, but that's a small market.

If Nikon made a full frame camera, it would be for the sake of having a super resolution flagship model.



Aug 04, 2005 at 09:34 AM
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p.2 #3 · D200


Why assume it would be too expensive. They may have a new flagship model in the works with a full frame CMOS as we type. Rich amateurs are not a small market. It is just the type of feature that would sell like crazy and silence the Canon crowd for a few months.


Aug 04, 2005 at 09:46 AM
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p.2 #4 · D200


Just to add some fun, one of my colleagues next door, a Canon freak, is already talking about the rumors of a Canon 30D, the supposed "D200-killer" to be put on the market in the coming months, or is the D200 a 30D-killer?


Aug 04, 2005 at 09:46 AM
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p.2 #5 · D200


I think we should all wait for the annoucement


Aug 04, 2005 at 10:07 AM
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p.2 #6 · D200


jasin wrote:
So, I hear the D200 wil be anounced in the next month and aparently it has something on/to it that no current pro DSLR has.
Any suggestions?
One I had heard was that it has dual card slots, one would assume CF and SD.
Cheers,
Jasin.


Well unless I am misunderstanding you, Dual card slots already exist in the Canon lineup, although the limitation is that you cannot for example shoot JPG+Raw and direct the Jpeg to the SD and the Raw to the CF.

Hopefully the addition is not live view or mpegs, both of which do not exist on any SLR.



Aug 04, 2005 at 10:20 AM
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p.2 #7 · D200


I had an Olympus E-10 and I miss that feature on my D-70


Aug 04, 2005 at 11:04 AM
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p.2 #8 · D200


The live preview with a fold out lcd is really handy for macro type shots.


Aug 04, 2005 at 11:05 AM
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p.2 #9 · D200


Funny about Canon, they are going to release a D200 killer before the D200 is out...

Canon is like the General Motors of the camera industry, model after model after model...

Here's to wishful thinking that Nikon will put out a D2X lite and call it a D200...Anything under 10MP is stupid, just to appeal to the measurebators...

Maybe it will come with the new Fovean (spelling?) sensor like the Sigma? That would be pretty cool...



Aug 04, 2005 at 11:08 AM
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p.2 #10 · D200


Err, I want the "ledgend" to continue


Aug 04, 2005 at 12:39 PM
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p.2 #11 · D200


>>I think we should all wait for the annoucement
More fun to guess and fuel the rumer mill.

I can guess/wish because I am not under NDA
1. 5fps (Needed by the sports and bird photographers)
2. Same sensor as the D2X (Already spent the R&D, may as well reuse)
3. Larger screen like the D70s (Already developed, may as well reuse)
4. Larger viewfinder (I wish, I wish, I wish)
5. Similar metal body as the D100 (The D70/50 are the plastics)
6. External grip like the D100 (Save money by making it an add-in)

Robin



Aug 04, 2005 at 12:50 PM
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p.2 #12 · D200


this has gotta be my favourite hoax picture, the d200 stencil isn't even straight with the body.


Aug 04, 2005 at 01:02 PM
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p.2 #13 · D200


SCWWWWWING! Its fun to dream. That body size would be great, much like my F-100 without the MB-15 grip. I will beg, borrow, steal, and sell whatever I can to own it.


Aug 04, 2005 at 01:20 PM
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p.2 #14 · D200


molson wrote:
"Full frame" will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history, unless Canon is planning on redesigning their lens mount again. It's pretty much accepted now that their current lens line, particularly in the wide end, works poorly with full-frame sensors. They'll keep at least one camera model with the big sensor for a while, if only to save face.


Not to take the thread too far off track, but we already know that some companies manufacture wide angle lenses that work well on Canon FF cameras, even those companies don't happen to be Canon. We also know that many professionals use the 1Ds series of cameras with Canon lenses, and make good quality images and money doing it. I would posit that dismissing a 1.0x sensor format is premature, especially since we know that immaculate wides can be produced without major mount re-design. If Canon started producing a quality wide and charged out the nose for it, or contracted/acquired Leica's expertise to do it, the very opposite of what you say might become the case. More likely, I think, is that each format will co-exist for a long time to come, with each approach endearing itself to particular users.

Arka C.

Arka C.



Aug 04, 2005 at 03:13 PM
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p.2 #15 · D200


Sheesh are we not over this 'full frame' garbage yet, Nikon IS full frame I can't believe so many are still stuck in 35mm film terminology, guy's, it's the digital age now.
Funny Mark should mention that he would not like live image, oh my god if you could have a live image mode with an lcd finder for silent imaging I would change my mind and purchase one.
Nikon give me noise free please.
Cheers
Jasin.



Aug 04, 2005 at 05:11 PM
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p.2 #16 · D200


>>oh my god if you could have a live image mode with an lcd finder
Most people don't like an lcd finder because it is very hard to see details and focus the image.
Have you seen the Zigview Add-on lcd finder?
http://www.intro2020.co.uk/pages/zigview.htm



Aug 04, 2005 at 05:56 PM
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p.2 #17 · D200


The option not to have live imaging not exclusivley.
I don't see any other way to do other than through the use of the lcd screen or a finder.
Cheers,
Jasin.



Aug 04, 2005 at 06:25 PM
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p.2 #18 · D200


Something no other pro camera has. This is a fun guess and I hope it turns out true, but unlikely - interchangeable viewfinders like the F series.


Aug 04, 2005 at 08:31 PM
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p.2 #19 · D200


well, since we're all posting things we 'want'
- larger viewfinder
- ~10mp
- faster af (new cam1500!) with 9 af pts
- 5fps with good buffer (20 nefs!)
- low noise @ high iso
- MLU
- iso 100 - 3200
- 1/500 flash sync
- better dynamic range
- optional grip with control wheel



Aug 05, 2005 at 01:13 AM
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p.2 #20 · D200


jasin wrote:
Sheesh are we not over this 'full frame' garbage yet, Nikon IS full frame I can't believe so many are still stuck in 35mm film terminology, guy's, it's the digital age now.
Funny Mark should mention that he would not like live image, oh my god if you could have a live image mode with an lcd finder for silent imaging I would change my mind and purchase one.
Nikon give me noise free please.
Cheers
Jasin.


Maybe Full Frame is the wrong term - call them "half-frame" or "oversize frame" or whatever.

It doesn't matter what you call it, the point that was made is that the 24x36mm format has some compelling arguments with which many professionals can obviously relate.

Personally, I believe both formats have a place for the forseeable future. Cropped cameras make some sense for wildlife and/or sports photograhers. Whereas FF (just a generic term) may be a valid choice for those who like to use narrow DOF, studio work, or architecture etc.



Aug 05, 2005 at 01:33 AM
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