p.2 #1 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
I'd simply want a 20D with the autofocus system and interchangeable focus screens and eye control focus. Seems reasonable. A larger buffer would be nice too.
p.2 #5 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
increased ability to crop (with higher megapixel sensor) - superior high ISO quality - the proliferation of model specific software...
In my opinion these make upgrading with each generation smth. that professionals would consider seriously. And perhaps, upgrading with every other generation is not toofar off for the advanced amateur. There is a pretty good chance waiting for three generations would bring with it the danger of 'being out of the loop'...
I do not think that the flatbed scanner (or dedicated film scanner for that matter) comparisons are useful given the 'percieved' future prospects for 35mm film in the consumer market from today's perspective. And there is always the Bill Gates goof-up (was that about memory or Hardisk size?) to remember.
p.2 #7 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
When replacing the 10D, Canon made a decision to go along with the Mk2's 8 MP sensor, but keeping the 10D's 1.6X crop. I'd like to see theat reversed. I don't mind 6 MP, but would prefer at least a 1.3X crop.
p.2 #8 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
I think that the 20D is all the camera I need for now and am very impressed with it, can't afford anything more now, but here is what I would do to make my perfect camera.
Same size as 20D but, built on grip, I just can't live with... or without the BG-ED2 if you know what I mean... Still runs on two Lion BP-511A's
1.3 crop would be a nice compromise (cost cutting for Canon instead of full frame)
This would of course include larger, brighter viewfinder.
12 megapixels would be a great size and probably all that most of us would need.
Eye focus for the EOS 3 like fun factor
Larger buffer for RAW's, 5fps shooting for 24 frames would be nice
Canon please make this camera, then ship one to me for beta testing. Thanks
p.2 #10 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
The only argument really is where the format is going --- I think consumers are pretty happy with the basic P&S's that are available now so that market will stay and probably kill off the last vestiges of the old minature type 35 MM non DSLR cameras that were used primarily for "Holiday Snaps". For example the Olympus 7070 is nearly as good as it gets in these type of stakes while Canon's S type cams are great for just slipping into small pockets and getting grab shots with.
If FF is going to be the mainstay of Pro work then a new possibly 22 MP top range camera will appear competing (maybe) with some digital MF gear. Possibly a FAST switchable resolution cam for sports, PJ, etc (1D2 users) while a slower version emphasised for studio, fine art and landscapes (1Ds2) .
Lenses are really the key issue -- the problem with smaller sensors is that it becomes increasingly possible to obtain narrow DOF's once you reduce the sensor size. 35 MM lenses represent the best compromise currently available -- and no one has come up with anything better yet.
Whilst I doubt whether most of us really NEED a 22 MP cam I'm sure it will arrive --but unlike computers and disk storage (IBM said all the desktop computers in the worldd wouldn't need a 20 MB disk or Bill gates saying nobody would need more main memory than 64Kb) we are getting to the stage where technology really has outdistanced our real need for it.
For example we can easily make cars capable of travelling at 300 kph (the new BMW M5/M6 to name but one) but for 99.9999% of the people on the planet it's just an irrelevance.
I'm actually quite happy with the cams I have now -- even (?) a 1D2 will make enlargements that most people wouldn't even have dreamt about making in film days.
I can't see myself upgrading anytime soon -- unless something totally revolutionary comes out.
-K
Apr 17, 2005 at 05:48 AM
mbohunsky Offline • • • • [X]
p.2 #11 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
All I care for is a battery grip with the integration like the one on the film 1 series and the EOS 3. The grip on my EOS 3 feels so solid, the grip and camera might as well be one piece. The grip on my 20D feels like I can break it off. Other than that I'm more than happy with my 20D. I don't care for eye focus. The eye focus on my Elan 7NE was much better than the one on the EOS 3. Most likelly because there were only 7 points to control rather than the 45. And yes, I do calibrate for every lighting condition.
p.2 #12 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
I really doubt a 1 series camera would come out this fall. Even if canon leaves the two 1 series seperate, it hasn't been very long for a 1 series camera yet. You would have a better bet in February 2006.
I doubt the 20D will be replaced since it will only be a year old. It is possible, but if they did it would be a really minor upgrade similar to the D60 to 10D.
The Mark II and the 20D are getting so close in price that I think they are killing any possibility for a 3D. The Mark II is moving into the 3D price range now.
The only camera that I think could be replaced in the fall would be the original Digital Rebel (not the XT). This is probably where Canon would make the most money and it is their oldest body. I think most people on this board will not be very excited by the replacement camera.
Apr 17, 2005 at 08:52 AM
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p.2 #13 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
The eye-directed focus system that their film cameras have!
The ablility to change the focus screen
more FPS to compete with some of the nikon gear
p.2 #14 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
I'm also hanging on to my 10D for the same reasons as zonkola and JeffBrowser, even though the 20D is a significant upgrade in two areas which I sort of need, better high ISO and a bit more speed. Still, until I start making som money on the stuff, I cant really justify the $. Moreover, some more ruggedness, like on the 1 series, is high on my which list too, so maybe I'll just wait until you can get a used 1D II for a reasonable price (below $2000?).
p.2 #15 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough"...Stalin? Kruschev?
Anywho...I'm just gonna jump on the 1Ds2, because, its the first digital SLR I've seen that looks like chromes....enough.
An above poster is right, things are starting to flatten out, this is the prime-profit-development time for them, right this moment. I just WISH SD cards would GO AWAY. Argh. I will miss my no-kidding-two-slots feature of my D2000.
p.2 #16 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
As stated above, the new camera probably will be "cheaper". More features but for less $$$?
Mechanical quality has its price. The lenses did not become less expensive, did they. So as long as there are moving parts like the mirror etc in a camera, I want it to be of good mechanical quality - like cars.
I hope the trend will stop and the prices will not drop anymore - sounds strange
p.2 #18 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
mbohunsky wrote:
All I care for is a battery grip with the integration like the one on the film 1 series and the EOS 3. The grip on my EOS 3 feels so solid, the grip and camera might as well be one piece.
I'd like that too, but for a different reason: the option to avoid the extra bulk of the grip, which isn't possible with the one-piece grip design used on the 1DmkII. Chalk it up to personal preference, but the grip adds too much weight and bulk for what I do--and apparently also for all the 1DmkII owners that use 20D's as their walkaround cameras.
I've heard guys say that the grip has to be built into the camera to feel solid, but I don't buy it. A cylinder head isn't integrated with an engine block, but try to wiggle one loose sometime. An solid-feeling, removable battery grip is absolutely possible from a mechanical standpoint.
p.2 #19 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
Kyle Yates wrote:
Whilst I doubt whether most of us really NEED a 22 MP cam I'm sure it will arrive --but unlike computers and disk storage (IBM said all the desktop computers in the worldd wouldn't need a 20 MB disk or Bill gates saying nobody would need more main memory than 64Kb) we are getting to the stage where technology really has outdistanced our real need for it.
For example we can easily make cars capable of travelling at 300 kph (the new BMW M5/M6 to name but one) but for 99.9999% of the people on the planet it's just an irrelevance. ...Show more →
Exactly correct. More, more, more is not the sole pattern of technological evolution. Many parameters reach a level where increasing them becomes irrelevant. In the case of resolution, once it reaches the point where medium format equivalent or so quality can be achieved affordably, resolution increases will only appeal to very specialized types of photograpy, probably in markets like medicine and astronomy.
Unless, of course, you really need that 100% crop to reveal the bacteria on your model's lower lip. Now that's sexy.
Apr 17, 2005 at 04:00 PM
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p.2 #20 · Possible new Canon DSLR in the fall - What would you like to see?
I'd love to see a 6 or 8mp full frame camera. I don't know if this is backwards thinking but I'd buy a consumer full frame version anyday. Tired of this crop business. Oh well I guess that's how the DSLR market goes.
