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p.1 #1 · LPE6N improvements?


Anyone know if the newly announced LPE6N will be able to be used in other cameras besides the 7d mk ii and what if any improvements to Mah have been made? Thanks all.


Sep 24, 2014 at 09:31 PM
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p.1 #2 · LPE6N improvements?


I haven't seen any specifics, just that it has slightly higher capacity. I'm guessing it has more to do with trying to keep non-oem batteries not to be compatible. I am glad that the older version will still work in the camera though.


Sep 24, 2014 at 09:34 PM
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p.1 #3 · LPE6N improvements?


LP-E6N can be used in any camera that takes LP-E6. Click on compatible products at the link near the battery

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_7d_mark_ii#SuppliesAndAccessories

Most likely its modest increase in capacity may be 10% similar to what they did with 1D IV -> 1DX



Sep 24, 2014 at 09:39 PM
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Here's some info that might help explain, see the 2012 notice for specific N details...

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/hardware/canon_battery.html



Sep 24, 2014 at 09:40 PM
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StillFingerz wrote:
Here's some info that might help explain, see the 2012 notice for specific N details...

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/hardware/canon_battery.html


I am not so sure about that info. The charger that is shipping with 7D2 seems to be the same as the old one LC-E6 at least on canon usa website. If that is a typo i have no idea...



Sep 24, 2014 at 09:43 PM
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p.1 #6 · LPE6N improvements?


When Olympus updated their batteries and chargers to comply with the new Japan regulations last year, they removed the top off or trickle charge near the end of the charge cycle (after it turns green). I bet Canon is making a similar change.


Sep 24, 2014 at 10:34 PM
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p.1 #7 · LPE6N improvements?


The following is from Arthur Morris's blog. He got some direct answers from Rudy Winston. I think it answers most/all questions about the new battery:

"Shedding Some Light on 7D II Battery Misconceptions

After reading that the 7D II battery life would be approximately 800 images at 73°F while the 7D battery life would be approximately 1000 images at 73°F, I assumed that the 7D II’s new battery was not as powerful as the old battery in the 7D. So I wrote Rudy Winston as follows:

Hey Again Rudy, Do you have any clues as to why the new 7D II battery is less powerful than the older battery in the 7D? thanks, artie

Rudy kindly replied via e-mail:

Hi Artie,

Actually, the new and very slightly modified LP-E6N battery that launches with the EOS 7D Mark II is marginally more powerful than the LP-E6 battery that we’ve known up to now. It’s rated at 3.5% higher mAh rating — 1865 mAh vs. 1800 for the current LP-E6. The charger (the LC-E6), is the same for both batteries; use it with either the new or the current battery.

LP-E6N and LP-E6 are absolutely, unconditionally backward- and forward-compatible… users who have a number of the older batteries can use them freely in the new EOS 7D Mark II, and likewise the new LP-E6N can be freely used in an EOS 5D Mark II/Mark III, 70D, the original 7D, or any other LP-E6-compatible EOS body. There has, however, been a lot of unfounded speculation and misinformation on-line about this with people freaking-out that they’ll have to get all-new batteries, etc. That is just not the case.

Here are the battery life ratings, according to Canon Inc. —

Original EOS 7D — 800 shots (with 50% using built-in flash; at 73 degrees F)

New EOS 7D Mark II — 670 shots (same conditions)

Though there is no official word or explanation, it is clear that the higher resolution, higher-capacity processors and system overhead contribute to fewer potential shots on a single battery charge. FYI, the built-in flash has the same maximum power as the previous unit, although they’ve changed the official method of calculating Guide Number, so the GN appears to be slightly lower on the 7D Mark II than on the original 7D.

So to summarize, it’s not a less powerful battery at all, even though the rated number of possible shots has decreased a bit vs. the original EOS 7D.

Hope that this is helpful to you and to those who follow your blog. Rudy Winston, Canon USA"



Sep 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM
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p.1 #8 · LPE6N improvements?


Are all Canons bodies, such as 5D III, now shipping with the new batteries?

EBH



Sep 24, 2014 at 10:43 PM
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p.1 #9 · LPE6N improvements?


yes you will be able to use the new 'n' battery in older LP-e6 bodies . and you will be able to use a non 'n' battery in a 7D2 . its just that the 'n' battery is a higher capacity so will last longer .

if you couldnt do this because there was a risk of damaging the camera by using the wrong battery then canon would have changed the design (and called it by a different model number) so that it would not physically fit .


EB-1 wrote:
Are all Canons bodies, such as 5D III, now shipping with the new batteries?

EBH


probably not , at least to start with . but it will probably become hard to impossible to buy the older non 'n' version in the future .
just like the LP-e4 . Lp-e4n





Sep 25, 2014 at 01:18 AM
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p.1 #10 · LPE6N improvements?


Gochugogi wrote:
When Olympus updated their batteries and chargers to comply with the new Japan regulations last year, they removed the top off or trickle charge near the end of the charge cycle (after it turns green). I bet Canon is making a similar change.


I'm curious, what did Japan insist on changing, and why?



Sep 26, 2014 at 03:39 PM
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p.1 #11 · LPE6N improvements?


Thanks to everyone for the comments and to arbitrage for the detailed information.


Oct 06, 2014 at 09:52 PM





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