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Archive 2014Field of dreams
p.1 #1Field of dreams
The dream is to be here when the flowers are prime and the sunset is like the one I got a couple weeks ago.
Looking southeast about an hour before sunset
light on the mountain, still early
wide shot as sun goes down
last of the show
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last of the show
Jun 28, 2014 at 05:41 PM
p.1 #2Field of dreams
Wonderful DOF of field on these, Ben.
First is nice. Not sure about the ideal crop but I dont think the 50/50 horizon split works to add anything.
For the others, I feel more contained in the meadow, enveloped by the wildflowers, esp in 3 and 4. It evokes many pleasant feelings and is added by the more pano crops and more on top, in the sky. 3 is my favorite. A beauty. Second feels like you are trying too include too much. Greens might be a bit too saturated but overall the colors feel realistic and the sky seems right.
BTW, I suspect your camera is level, knowing that precision is your goal and forte. But I wonder about a slightly less tilted meadow for aesthetics.
Scott
First is nice. Not sure about the ideal crop but I dont think the 50/50 horizon split works to add anything.
For the others, I feel more contained in the meadow, enveloped by the wildflowers, esp in 3 and 4. It evokes many pleasant feelings and is added by the more pano crops and more on top, in the sky. 3 is my favorite. A beauty. Second feels like you are trying too include too much. Greens might be a bit too saturated but overall the colors feel realistic and the sky seems right.
BTW, I suspect your camera is level, knowing that precision is your goal and forte. But I wonder about a slightly less tilted meadow for aesthetics.
Scott
Jun 28, 2014 at 06:13 PM
p.1 #3Field of dreams
Thanks Scott, I really appreciate the feedback. After watching the tutorial Karen posted, the one thing I am not doing is tilting my camera. I could have used the 17TSE here, but I have trouble focusing so I reach for an AF lens first.
But it occurs to me that the TSE only allows moving up or down while keeping it level. If I tilt the camera, I get perspective issues again. ( I know these images do not really have any). But I need to experiment and maybe tilting the camera compresses the height and allows getting all the elements in with a different horizon.
On the first, I never even thought about the centered horizon, I never see them unless I force myself to look for them. It was early and I was just getting myself adjusted to the scenes. The rest were taken from the far edge of that field in the first but looking toward the camera position of the first..
On 2, I only included it here as cropped because of that pink cloud upper right. I have a hard time losing precious color.
3 is also my favorite and I often crop to 16x9, in fact I have a few frames that take 16x9 aspect.
I only show 4 because it had a bit more color. But the story of course is the meadow. I was here (nearby) 5 nights back and had a moose walk though my scene. I got a sunset then too, but the flowers were pretty scant. I may show that shot another time.
I have some less tilted meadows from another day. Same scene as the first. I will add it here. Tell me what you think.
Edit, I just reread this and I think you meant to level the meadow line (raise it on the right side). I thought you meant tilt the lens downward to change change the perceived slope of the meadow.
But it occurs to me that the TSE only allows moving up or down while keeping it level. If I tilt the camera, I get perspective issues again. ( I know these images do not really have any). But I need to experiment and maybe tilting the camera compresses the height and allows getting all the elements in with a different horizon.
On the first, I never even thought about the centered horizon, I never see them unless I force myself to look for them. It was early and I was just getting myself adjusted to the scenes. The rest were taken from the far edge of that field in the first but looking toward the camera position of the first..
On 2, I only included it here as cropped because of that pink cloud upper right. I have a hard time losing precious color.
3 is also my favorite and I often crop to 16x9, in fact I have a few frames that take 16x9 aspect.
I only show 4 because it had a bit more color. But the story of course is the meadow. I was here (nearby) 5 nights back and had a moose walk though my scene. I got a sunset then too, but the flowers were pretty scant. I may show that shot another time.
I have some less tilted meadows from another day. Same scene as the first. I will add it here. Tell me what you think.
Edit, I just reread this and I think you meant to level the meadow line (raise it on the right side). I thought you meant tilt the lens downward to change change the perceived slope of the meadow.
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Jun 28, 2014 at 07:06 PM
p.1 #4Field of dreams
Here is last weeks shot when the Moose walked through the scene. Just for fun, CC if you like.
I will show a 100% crop so you can see the moose better. 27 mm is a bit wide for wildlife.
last week with moose
crop of moose
I will show a 100% crop so you can see the moose better. 27 mm is a bit wide for wildlife.
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last week with moose
crop of moose
Jun 29, 2014 at 10:48 AM
p.1 #6Field of dreams
roger lund wrote:
Love the shots , thanks for sharing.
Glad you like them you and anyone else feel free to comment. This is something I do every year and I know I can improve.
Love the shots , thanks for sharing.
Glad you like them you and anyone else feel free to comment. This is something I do every year and I know I can improve.
Jun 29, 2014 at 12:54 PM
p.1 #7Field of dreams
Printed the 1st and 3rd from the initial post. The first prints fine, the 3rd is way too dark. Some scenes just don't work well as prints.
Jul 01, 2014 at 09:08 AM
p.1 #8Field of dreams
Hope you don't mind me channeling my inner Gursky Ben (i.e., just call me Lisle Krolsky; lol). Wonder captures for sure. 
hrez here
hrez here
Jul 01, 2014 at 09:30 AM
p.1 #9Field of dreams
You boil it down to its elements, field and sky. You have some unique ways to render images, you should tell us about how you go about it sometime.
Jul 01, 2014 at 09:33 AM
p.1 #10Field of dreams
Thanks Ben; created a tutorial on how to create Gursky's at link below (for the field, I just used a gradient instead of the horizontal blur technique). Of course, I had to split the sky (should have tried better w/ making the sky more varied) and flower field running Resynthesizer yet again to heal the transparent boundary when I merged the too.
http://justpaste.it/horizontalstretched
http://justpaste.it/horizontalstretched
Jul 01, 2014 at 09:39 AM
p.1 #11Field of dreams
Thanks, so resynthesizer is a plug-in? Or is it a stand alone? I am probably too much of a realist to do this but I do appreciate you taking the time to render my images and show me some alternatives. Always feel free to modify any image I post.
Jul 01, 2014 at 09:52 AM
p.1 #12Field of dreams
Thanks Ben. Resynthesizer is a GIMP plugin that you have to download separately since it does not come pre-packaged with GIMP. It's only recently been upgraded (a little faster) but still is way too slow (took, I would say, around 10 minutes to render the lillies in your case). Still, beats cloning/merging my 1000 miles. lol
If you have GIMP and Python installed (believe the newest versions of GIMP includes Python finally), you can get Resynthesizer from link below (original Resynthesizer does not require Python and it still works by the way; I keep both versions since the original, though even slower, does a better job at seamless merging for certain types of results).
http://registry.gimp.org/node/27986
If you have GIMP and Python installed (believe the newest versions of GIMP includes Python finally), you can get Resynthesizer from link below (original Resynthesizer does not require Python and it still works by the way; I keep both versions since the original, though even slower, does a better job at seamless merging for certain types of results).
http://registry.gimp.org/node/27986
Jul 01, 2014 at 10:05 AM
p.1 #13Field of dreams
As a side note, Resynthesizer is also good at creating Corn Mazes and Crop Circles. Did the one below recently.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/34520999@N05/14476646583/sizes/o/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/34520999@N05/14476646583/sizes/o/
Jul 01, 2014 at 10:14 AM
p.1 #14Field of dreams
I don't have either gimp or Python, I have heard of gimp but not Python.
So this is how they do corn mazes
So this is how they do corn mazes
Jul 01, 2014 at 10:21 AM
p.1 #15Field of dreams
ben egbert wrote:
......So this is how they do corn mazes
I suspect so Ben. lololol
......So this is how they do corn mazes
I suspect so Ben. lololol
Jul 01, 2014 at 11:30 AM
p.1 #16Field of dreams
These are very nice, Ben. The photos and the PP are wonderful.
Jul 01, 2014 at 11:53 AM
p.1 #17Field of dreams
dmacmillan wrote:
These are very nice, Ben. The photos and the PP are wonderful.
Thanks, glad you like them.
These are very nice, Ben. The photos and the PP are wonderful.
Thanks, glad you like them.
Jul 01, 2014 at 02:00 PM
p.1 #18Field of dreams
Just wanted to brag; fooled a few people with my corn render (though it does look fake to me but then again, I rendered it; lol).
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1301655
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1301655
Jul 03, 2014 at 01:38 PM
p.1 #19Field of dreams
I like the one with the moose off in the distance. It is a subtle addition to the landscape, but it pulls my eye in a great way. Great pics. Thanks for sharing
Jul 04, 2014 at 03:05 PM