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p.1 #1 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I'm new to Sony so maybe this is a silly question but here goes.

I would like to wirelessly trigger my Alien Bees B800 strobe with my A7 and am having trouble finding information about how to do this. Currently I use a Nikon D7000 with some Yongnuo triggers and it works great. I would like to do the same with my A7 but it seems there are no Yongnuo (or similar) triggers compatible with the Sony Multi-interface shoe. I'm sure I'm overlooking something being new to Sony.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Feb 03, 2014 at 11:47 AM
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p.1 #2 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


The newer Yongnuo triggers (RF-603) only work with the brands they're made for (Canon/Nikon) due to brand-specific power saving logic. The RF-602 (aka RF-600TX) works on all hotshoes, including the A7/A7r. I have used them on these bodies myself. You can find the RF-602 on ebay.


Feb 03, 2014 at 12:01 PM
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p.1 #3 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


Use the Yongnuo RF-602 triggers.

Alternatively there's a hack for newer RF-603 triggers, that involves soldering in a pull-up resistor to take it out of standby mode. See here



I can confirm this works on the A7.



Feb 03, 2014 at 01:02 PM
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p.1 #4 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I've got a pair of White Lightnings that I fire using the Paul Buff wireless trigger/receiver. It's a lot more expensive than Yongnuo (and a lot less expensive than Pocket Wizards), but it just goes off your hotshoe. Not sure about the Yongnuo's being able to fire off the hotshoe. I just modded my RF-603s to be able to fire the 560III off my A7 with just the hotshoe but it required some soldering and I haven't tried it out with my strobes.


Feb 03, 2014 at 01:08 PM
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p.1 #5 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I was able to fire an AB1600 and AB400 with Yongnuo RF-603's (made for Canon) on a Sony A58, A850 as well as my Sigma DP2M and DP3M. Not sure what everyone's saying here, but seems to work great. Maybe something I don't know about voltages, but I've read that the only triggers that really worked with the A850 and hotshot adapter (stupid Minolta shoe) were the 603's. Also, the 603's are a better investment because I've read they fire flashes with voltages up the 300V whereas the older models do not and are more of the modern standard (6-12V).

Again, this is all anecdotal information that I obtained through my own personal research, but my experience also seems to mirror that of those I got this information from. Not sure how this all helps with your A7, but I figured I'd add my personal experience since there is a sort of lack of information regarding Yongnuo products.



Feb 10, 2014 at 01:51 AM
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p.1 #6 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I found this. In the comments section. It says they work up to 1/200th of a second.

http://flashhavoc.com/yongnuo-rf-603-ii-released/



Feb 10, 2014 at 01:02 PM
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p.1 #7 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I use Phottix Odin for both a99 & a7r.

works for both sony flash in TTL and can also use it as trigger for my alienbee.

http://www.amazon.com/Phottix-Odin-Flash-Trigger-Sony/dp/B009Q817A4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1392057207&sr=8-9&keywords=phottix+odin




Feb 10, 2014 at 01:35 PM
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p.1 #8 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I am using cheaplights npt-04 triggers that I bought for my Olympus Em5. Works fine with my A7 and my alien bee 800, no TTL but they were $25. 1/250th sync.


Feb 10, 2014 at 09:49 PM
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p.1 #9 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


I use the YN RF603 (Canon mount; manual trigger) and it works OK.

I will purchase the Phottix Odin for Sony to get the hss mode on Godox/Cheetah strobe. It needs A7r universal shoe - to - Sony older shoe adapter. I have ordered it from B&H. Hope it will work




Feb 11, 2014 at 12:18 AM
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p.1 #10 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


You'll also have to set your A7 from WYSIWYG to that other mode that nobody ever uses.. I think the category is called exposure simulation or something, sorry don't have my A7 or A99 with me right now.


Feb 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM
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p.1 #11 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


nixland wrote:
I use the YN RF603 (Canon mount; manual trigger) and it works OK.

I will purchase the Phottix Odin for Sony to get the hss mode on Godox/Cheetah strobe. It needs A7r universal shoe - to - Sony older shoe adapter. I have ordered it from B&H. Hope it will work



Will you actually get HSS?

The RF603 C do not work for me, so will try the resistor to turn one one and see



Feb 15, 2014 at 03:37 PM
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p.1 #12 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


heloo, had anyone tried A7 with phottix odin in elinchrom quadra ranger strobt? how it work? can it use hypersync speed on elinchrom? thank you


Mar 21, 2014 at 01:11 AM
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p.1 #13 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


PCB Cyber Commander trigger
PCB CSR+ or CSRB+ receiver

Kinda expensive, but far better than third party solutions because they can also adjust power levels.

But look at all those wires going every which way on the CSR+ page. Lots of stuff to lose. B800's are such a pain. Save up, sell them, and get Einsteins ASAP. Look how much cleaner the E640/CSXCV is - and, it can make much finer adjustments to power levels than the B800/CSR+. Oh, and the Einstein's flash power and color temperature are 80000000017 times more consistent shot-to-shot than the B800.



Mar 21, 2014 at 07:47 AM
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p.1 #14 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


Lee Saxon wrote:
PCB Cyber Commander trigger
PCB CSR+ or CSRB+ receiver

Kinda expensive, but far better than third party solutions because they can also adjust power levels.

But look at all those wires going every which way on the CSR+ page. Lots of stuff to lose. B800's are such a pain. Save up, sell them, and get Einsteins ASAP. Look how much cleaner the E640/CSXCV is - and, it can make much finer adjustments to power levels than the B800/CSR+. Oh, and the Einstein's flash power and color temperature are 80000000017 times more consistent shot-to-shot than the B800.


A7r & Einsteins & CyberCommander are awsome



Mar 21, 2014 at 07:54 AM
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p.1 #15 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


amplexis wrote:
A7r & Einsteins & CyberCommander are awsome


What's the max sync you can reach with the PCB setup?



Jun 28, 2014 at 08:29 AM
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p.1 #16 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


This one works great - for $20! - on my A7r (recommended here a while back by another member):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MTN9MM/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



Jun 28, 2014 at 08:59 AM
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p.1 #17 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


Tariq--are you saying those sync at 1/250 with the a7 and PCB lights?

My question was what sync speed people are getting out of the cybercommander/cybersync system...



Jun 29, 2014 at 09:51 AM
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p.1 #18 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


jsv_20 wrote:
Tariq--are you saying those sync at 1/250 with the a7 and PCB lights?

My question was what sync speed people are getting out of the cybercommander/cybersync system...


Sorry, I don't know that as I have the A7r which syncs at 1/160 sec. and I use both with Dyna-lit. That reply was in response to the original poster.



Jun 29, 2014 at 10:53 AM
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p.1 #19 · Sony A7 with Alien Bees


No worries. Thanks for the clarification. You had my hopes up for a moment. I'm still on the hunt for what the max sync speed is for a PCB setup and the a7/r/s.


Jun 30, 2014 at 03:12 PM





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