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p.1 #1 · D3 down to D600


Anyone go from using a D3 to a D600? and your thoughts, likes or dislikes about the D600
I am considering dropping down to the D600 for size and weight. How does the D600 compare to the D3 on focusing issues?
May 12, 2013 at 05:22 PM
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p.1 #2 · D3 down to D600


Despite what others may chime in with. The D3 was, and is in the professional lineup of the Nikon bodies. In it's release, it was made with a sports shooter in mind and had all the right stuff to enable lightning fast focus and keep[ pace with 9 FPS whilst doing so. Not much has changed in that regard with the exception of 15 point 'cross' points changed/added to the middle of the finder. NO ONE will convince me that these partially plastic bodies, with very low life expectancy (compared to the pro line) will ever come close to the performance level of the pro line of the D2-D3-D4.

I wouldn't imagine the D600 is any better body than the D800, which I've taken for a very long spin around the block over the last month or so.. No comparison to me.
May 12, 2013 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #3 · D3 down to D600


Personally I couldn't go from a Pro body to an entry level one (1/4000th?!) I have the D 800 and I still
much prefer shootin' my D3...BUT it's tough to argue with the IQ, when one needs those kinda files.



May 12, 2013 at 06:11 PM
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p.1 #4 · D3 down to D600


John & Will,
Thanks for the comments. I bought a D7100 a few weeks ago and was just wondering if the ability to use the same batteries and media cards would be worth the switch. At almost 70 I am slowing down a little and not shooting as many sports events as I used to. Mostly birds and wildlife. Just going to have to think this one through cause I do live my D3 but that rascal sure is heavy,
Maybe I need to take a closer look at the D800.
May 12, 2013 at 06:53 PM
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p.1 #5 · D3 down to D600


If you are alright with the D7100, the D600 is just the FF big brother.


May 12, 2013 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #6 · D3 down to D600


I went from a D3s to a D800. The D800 has no problems keeping up with sports. I loved the D3s but preferred what the D800 brought to the table. I'm now glad I made the change. The D800 is near perfect unless you need 10 frames a sec. I find 20x30 24mps @ 5fps plenty for sports. I'm sure the D600 is a fine camera but it is still an entery level camera. Weighing out all the importants areas in a camera the D800 is quite flexible and produces magical images at a great price point. The grip is nice to have when you have long shoots or plan to video. I primarily use the D800 w/o the grip but when I need it I'm glad I have. Resolution is so high there really is no need to turn the camera to portrait position. I do miss the ergo/ lay out of the D3s for professional shooting but the D800 adds so much to the table that these minor things are no big. Grab a D800
May 12, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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p.1 #7 · D3 down to D600


I went form a D3x to D600 so similar style body to D3, nothing matches the pro style body ergo, period. But for me it's about the files and portability, I needed something I could walk with all day. By the way my editors never ask me about my entry level camera
May 13, 2013 at 07:22 AM
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Christian S wrote:
I went from a D3s to a D800. The D800 has no problems keeping up with sports. I loved the D3s but preferred what the D800 brought to the table. I'm now glad I made the change. The D800 is near perfect unless you need 10 frames a sec. I find 20x30 24mps @ 5fps plenty for sports. I'm sure the D600 is a fine camera but it is still an entery level camera. Weighing out all the importants areas in a camera the D800 is quite flexible and produces magical images at a great price point. The grip...Show more →

go to a few Ultimate Disc events and try to follow through on the action and then say it will keep up.
here is where having the ability to do high frame rate is a definite ++++. the D800 might be nominal in its crop mode.

in the end I guess it all depends on the sports.

http://www.usaultimate.org/index.html

first 2 images are of a National Team/Club level demo game during the High School North Eastern Championship in Devens, MA just Saturday in the pouring rain. last 2 are of 2 HS's battling it out for the NE championships this past weekend.








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May 13, 2013 at 08:06 AM
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p.1 #9 · D3 down to D600


I have a D7100, D600, and D800.

I moved from the D3 to the D7000 because of the weight problem.
However, I would trade my D7100 + D600 for a D800e
because the D800 fits my hand so well that I can hand hold it longer than the other two,
and the results are that much better.
May 13, 2013 at 08:14 AM
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p.1 #10 · D3 down to D600


Man I really appreciate all of the comments to my question. Still looks like it is all up to me to decide. What works for some people may no work for others----guess thats why Nikon gave us so many choices.
May try to rent a D600 to see how it feels. Thanks again everyone.
May 13, 2013 at 11:46 AM
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p.1 #11 · D3 down to D600


trenchmonkey wrote:
Personally I couldn't go from a Pro body to an entry level one (1/4000th?!) I have the D 800 and I still
much prefer shootin' my D3...BUT it's tough to argue with the IQ, when one needs those kinda files.



But the base ISO is 100 on the D600 and 200 on the D3. So it kind of equals out unless your shooting that 4000th of a sec won't freeze.
May 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM
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p.1 #12 · D3 down to D600


As much as I usually respect Trenchmonkey's comments and findings, bringing the 1/4000 max shutter speed into play here is just a non-issue.

As with the D600 - compared to the D3 - the shutter max goes from 1/8000 to 1/4000, the base ISO drops from 200 to 100 making for an exactly equivalent exposure with a better sensor.

But then, whith a worse shutter nevertheless!
So everything else shall stand of course. There is no way I will change my D3 for an entry level camera.
May 13, 2013 at 01:01 PM
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I have shot a D4, D3, D3x, D800, and even a D7000. There's just nothing like the pro bodies. I love my D800 images, and the D7000 was a fine camera, but I miss the pro bodies when I shoot them.

Right now I have a pair of D800 bodies and a D4 - I always find myself reaching for that D4 when I'm doing wildlife and really want to get the shot. Each time I use a D800 I end up wishing it was quicker - I like the fast, aggressive AF of the D4, the high FPS, and large buffer.

As has been said before, the D4 just gets out there and gets it done. Period. (and the D3/s is the same way)

Oh, and 10FPS is fantastic! I get so many great expressions, perfect wing positions, etc on my wildlife now - stuff that I missed in the past when I thought 5 or 7 FPS was "good enough". There's nothing like capturing each little nuance when the action starts.


May 13, 2013 at 01:28 PM
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p.1 #14 · D3 down to D600


As much as I usually respect Trenchmonkey's comments and findings, bringing the 1/4000 max shutter speed into play here is just a non-issue.
What may appear on the surface to be fuzzy logic (relaxin' w/a few brewskis) I was comparing the D800 to the D600.
f2.8 and faster in bright light 1/4000th won't cut it. Fully 25% of my rodeo/roughstock/team roping falls w/in
these parameters as well as a huge portion of BIF. Landscapes and stuff sittin' still in the shade would be tolerable
I guess. The entry level moniker remains valid, my point...even tho I use the D800 for my money shots, I prefer
shootin' the D3 when the opportunity presents itself. Just sayin'
May 13, 2013 at 02:29 PM
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p.1 #15 · D3 down to D600


kentvinyard wrote:
Anyone go from using a D3 to a D600? and your thoughts, likes or dislikes about the D600
I am considering dropping down to the D600 for size and weight. How does the D600 compare to the D3 on focusing issues?

Dislikes of the D600, everything. Only like is the sensor.

You'd be better off getting a D800.
May 13, 2013 at 04:40 PM
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p.1 #16 · D3 down to D600


If you can get by with the "feel" of the D600, the sensor has it all over the D3. Now, don't flame me, if you don't believe me check this out. DXO comparison
May 13, 2013 at 04:48 PM
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p.1 #17 · D3 down to D600


Steve Perry wrote:
I have shot a D4, D3, D3x, D800, and even a D7000. There's just nothing like the pro bodies. I love my D800 images, and the D7000 was a fine camera, but I miss the pro bodies when I shoot them.

Right now I have a pair of D800 bodies and a D4 - I always find myself reaching for that D4 when I'm doing wildlife and really want to get the shot. Each time I use a D800 I end up wishing it was quicker - I like the fast, aggressive AF of the D4, the high FPS,...Show more →

+1 Steve has nailed it, as far as I'm concerned. As much as I like all of my Nikons, the d3s is the top of the heap, when you really need to get the job done in tough or fast action conditions. I shot a tennis gig last week. Tennis is a sport that I've only shot once before, so I don't know how to predict the action. But, I figured that it's usually a slow moving sport where the d800 would work okay. Nope. I got so frustrated with it that I put it back in the bag after about 20 shots. The d3s, d7k and d300 finished out the matches, with the d3s doing the lion's share.

Some folks can shoot sports/action with the d800, but I lack that skill and capability. I prefer that the camera just get out of the way.

I've been tempted to buy the d600, because it does have a great sensor and faster frame rate than the d800, but it's only 5.5 fps and I'm not a fan of the AF module. If it had cam 3500, I'd probably buy one.

I'm 62, with physical problems, so I understand your desire to lighten the load. Apparently you like the d7100. If so, then the AF system is really the only significant difference other than the sensor size, from the d7100 to the d600. I would agree with your thought about renting the d600 to see if it fits your needs. If you can live with the AF system, maybe it would be your best bet to lighten the load.

When I want light and convenient, I use the d5100 or d7k.

good luck,
Kerry
May 13, 2013 at 05:02 PM
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p.1 #18 · D3 down to D600


Coming from the D3, I would take a long hard look at the D800 instead of the D600. I have owned both and compared both side by side. The D600 is lighter on paper but not by much when you compare them side by side. The D800 weighs a little bit more but its better ergonomics makes up for it, so the result is that it's more enjoyable to handhold compared to the D600.




May 13, 2013 at 07:01 PM
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p.1 #19 · D3 down to D600


I recently rented the D600 for a backup and those dust/oil on the sensor issues were no joke. Anything above f/8 it started to show and at 16 it was everywhere in that upper left corner. So glad I went with D800 instead.
May 13, 2013 at 07:31 PM





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