So, some of my prints, since Miller's swapped to Fuji, have been coming back on the peachy-magenta side. It's very consistent. I also swapped to my Spectraview during my down time this year, and have calibrated several times. So, I'm trying to figure out if it's just the new monitor, the new Miller's paper, or other possibilities.
As I said, I have calibrated a few times. The results (visual and in print) are identical each time. I feel the monitor is fine, but may be misleading me in the sRGB realm of things. Additionally, I noticed I have choices to calibrate for "photo editing", "print editing", "sRGB emulation" and more. I've always chosen "photo editing". I assume that is to take advantage of aRGB that I never use in traditional printing, and is possibly why I'm seeing this (consistent) difference in my prints.
So, my question(s) for those of you that have wide gamut monitors... are any of you calibrating to an sRGB emulation only? If you're calibrating for wide, are your prints coming in with peaks in those wider color areas of that gamut? I'm thinking about trying the sRGB emulation tonight, but was curious if anyone else does before I go through it and order some prints.
Side question for other Miller's customers... Have any of you noticed a difference since the swap to Fuji paper?
Wide gamut monitors can be a PITA to calibrate. This is the only reason I refuse to purchase one again.
If you live in the sRGB space (as you do right now as a wedding photographer), calibrate to sRGB if you can. Otherwise you are relying on every application to do proper color space conversion. (aka, being color aware)
What color calibration tool are you using right now? Some do not work well with wide gamut monitors.
that being said, likely you are experiencing a print difference. Will millers give you an ICC file for softproofing?
Ooohhh... I've not ordered from Miller's since the switch since my last couple orders had non-standard sizes in them (I've emailed them about this multiple times, it's so annoying), so I had to order elsewhere. Good to know. I'll have to get some test prints done.
Slo, I am using Miller's latest profile. I use the Colormunki system that comes with the Spectraview. I have felt that it's a bit cool, but I usually tell myself that's normal. I will try the sRGB emulation mode and see if that helps.
Joel, the switch happened about a month ago, but I've only ordered three print jobs since. All three seemed peachy-magenta to me. (to my son as well when he ordered a 16x20 print yesterday)
Candice, I was waiting to hear what you'd say as I knew you were a Miller's client. Just let me know when you get your next print job from them and if it falls into my description for you as well. You may not notice on your high key stuff, but might in other things. I did notice in my flesh tones, but it's more noticeable in things like darker receptions.
Well, I ran some tests with the available optional modes, and the photo editing (wide gamut) option was by far the best in terms of acceptable brightness. More importantly, colors did not change between the calibration. (aside the obvious sRGB limited gamut in that mode) Only the brightness so-to-speak really changed between the modes and calibration options.
All that said, I do feel it's an issue of the new paper; or Miller's re-calibration of their systems overall. So, I do look forward to hearing what you, Joel, and Candice have to report since your systems have not changed. I expect to hear similar opinions to my OP.
flash wrote:
Softproof? Are Millers supplying profiles that you can use?
Gordon
This has nothing to do with proofing; outside the fact that the new profiles/calibration on Miller's end may be a little off.
I'm waiting for Candice and others to weigh in with their experience after they receive some prints since the paper change. I'm fairly certain at this point, it's the change in paper and recalibration on Miller's end, and others above will be able to confirm this.
Also, I'm no noob to this stuff. I handled tons of pre-press work during the two decades before I started shooting. I used to layout catalogs and much more for companies; so I'm well versed where that's concerned.
I wanted to bump this back up as some of you had mentioned getting some prints from Miller's to check your own calibration. All I've ordered recently are disks from Miller's. I have noticed better colors in the past order or two. I have a print order going in soon, but wanted to see if any of you had received your prints, and if you agreed with my OP.
