p.1 #1 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
Hiked to the Canyon Overlook in the dark the morning after a pretty good little snow storm in Zion
I came away with a few interesting images - I thought this one looked interesting as a B&W image
Your comments and suggestions are appreciated
Bob
As requested by both Stan and Simon....... color version added
p.1 #3 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
Looks like a good time to go there, the light is more even than daytime when the left side is almost as dark as it is in this image. You had a pretty dim moon to light it up, wonder what it would be like with a full moon?
p.1 #4 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
Awesome!
Mar 17, 2013 at 02:31 PM
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p.1 #5 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
liking the look of this Bob, but why didnt you take me here
i too think the subdued colour of the night sky would work better in colour, and would also show less blue channel issues in the sky, tho that may not be helped by compression issues.
p.1 #6 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
Bob,
Being a huge fan of Zion National Park myself I like the B/W version of the picture a lot. However, I suggest you clean up the fringing at the border between rock and sky above the most distant rock faces.
Other than that, I suggest you print that picture in a large format and display it in a prominent place.
Thanks for posting.
p.1 #7 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
I like the color version better. The B&W has some nasty compression artifacts that I wish weren't there. Although i do like the tones the B&W created. Definitely give it another go in the digital darkroom. I also like the crop better too with the road showing at the bottom. Seeing the whole switchback adds to the image. The white balance leaves me scratching my head here.. seems a little too blue, maybe a touch warmer might fix this. Thanks for sharing though, love the composition.
p.1 #8 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
Charlie, can you define "compression artifact" for me?
Obviously I am aware of them in the B&W image but couldn't figure out what they were
Was hoping one of the benefits of posting the image was I might figure that out
I'll see about the WB on the color version - maybe I leaned towards blue because was remembering that I was freezing my butt off on that overlook on a 28 degree, very windy morning waiting for the sun to come up
Thanks,
Bob
p.1 #10 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
I far prefer the color version, I am just not a B&W fan. Those red walls are why I go to Zion. The B&W does show the stars better. How to get lots of stars while still getting enough light on the foreground is tough. If you use the moon, it washes out the sky. If you don't have any moonlight, no light is available for the foreground.
p.1 #11 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
A compression artifact I would define as an area that gets "splotchy" like we see with the sky in the B&W. I find it happens when you create a low quality jpegs or push a photo too hard in the PP. I find that skies are very susceptible to this problem. I always save my jpegs to maximum size when i convert them from tiff. I am not sure what your workflow is so i cannot say what caused it for sure. What size did you upload it to the gallery here? Also what is the native size of this jpeg? If you find that there is a big discrepancy in size... there is a good chance the image got smooshed. Hope this helps.
p.1 #13 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
Dingsbums wrote:
Bob,
Being a huge fan of Zion National Park myself I like the B/W version of the picture a lot. However, I suggest you clean up the fringing at the border between rock and sky above the most distant rock faces.
Other than that, I suggest you print that picture in a large format and display it in a prominent place.
Thanks for posting.
Michael
+1 deal with the fringing and the B&W one will be magnificent
Niall
p.1 #15 · Zion Canyon Overlook Pre Dawn in Black & White
I like the BW idea for this shot as well. I believe you lower the luminance in the blue channel too much creating a harsh tone compression.
A solution would be to darken the sky even further or increasing the blue channel luminance to make the gradient smoother.
Fred
